Eelaam is a Church funded LTTE-driven Pan-Christian Political Agenda
Posted on April 2nd, 2013

Shenali Waduge

Abrahamic religions and the violence, expansionism and advocacy of conversion are nothing that can be kept hidden or denied. “Spreading the Good” has led to purging of territories and their wealth and excommunicating natives and their unique cultures. Current fears associated with the repetition of past colonial crimes needs to be empathized in view of the objective of both Christianity and Islam competing for world hegemony. The Church is Christianity’s first soldier and it is becoming more and more evident that behind most terrorists’ activities the Abrahamic religions prevail. LTTE was simply a pawn of the Church to advance a Pan-Christian political agenda that aims to create a satellite Christian autonomous state out of Tamil Nadu and North Sri Lanka (in a Sudan style divide). LTTE’s demise does not mean that ambition is over.

Church refers to all denominations as well as Christian funding agencies, Christian NGOs, Christian Governments and countries that use evangelization and militant Christian missionaries as instruments of foreign policy in countries of Asia and Africa. Church in generic form also applies to the UN that enforces only Western Christian liberal principles applicable to all even if they infringe on Eastern cultures and values.

CHURCH-COLONIAL “”…” CONVERT AND CONTROL / DIVIDE AND RULE

Continents of Africa and Asia were conquered by Christianity promoting colonials. They divided the populace and converted people along communal and linguistic lines. That doctrine is vigorously advocated with competition between Abrahamic religions (Christianity and Islam) to convert people in Africa and Asia. Their objectives are facilitated by self-serving politicians and the manipulation of secularism and multiculturalism helped by non-Christians/non-Muslims ready to sell their souls.

Across the globe, the separatist secessionist and political insurgement movements are either backed by the Church or followers of Islamic fundamentalism. The 1991 Rwanda genocide an example of Vaticans role in financing the genocide. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjHASCTxQlY  

India was divided as Aryan(Brahmin) and Non-Brahmin(Dravidian) and Hindi-Tamil. In Sri Lanka, the Church divided people as Sinhalese-Tamils and infiltrated the State through Sinhala Christian/Tamil Christians to purposely segregate the majority Buddhists.

The Church uses to perfection tenets of democracy to control impoverished nations in both Africa and Asia. The strategy is simple “”…” communities are turned against each other and they step in as referee with the solutions.

Solutions are never meant to help Hindu-Buddhists or Sinhalese-Tamils from actually rebuilding severed ties. Thus, a paradigm shift in thinking is certainly necessary and both Hindus and Buddhists need to know who the real enemy is. The reality is that Buddhists and the Tamil Hindus are being systematically disempowered.

Tamil Nadu’s “Dravidian movement” meant it wanted to be led by Britain while it was Christian import Chelvanayagam that called for a “Greater Dravida Nadu” connecting India and Sri Lanka “”…” the exact plan of the Church. LTTE was simply a mercenary outfit given tacit approval to kill innocent people so long as it would buy time until the creation of that pan-Christian “state” with the necessary numbers of converted Christians on both sides of the Palk Strait.  

LTTE A MERE PAWN

Many wonder why the West is angered that Sri Lanka has eliminated the LTTE. That anger stems from destroying their investment “”…” the heroic armed forces have managed to dislodge the LTTE from the Eelaam-Church nexus, the robot the West was using to create a Christian foothold in Asia that would combine a future separate Tamil Nadu and the geopolitically important nation of Sri Lanka. Now they have to use plan B of the same strategy.

We can now understand why LTTE didn’t accept the solutions offered because the LTTE were merely interim beneficiaries to a greater plan. Whether Prabakaran was aware of it was immaterial because he was dependent on these alliances for his own survival “”…” his supremacy was limited to what stood within the Church agenda.

LTTE was first the robot of India but with the killing of Rajiv Gandhi in 1991 it prostituted itself to become the pawn of Christian West to facilitate the Christian agenda in Asia.

CHURCH-LTTE LINKS

Prabakaran became Christian. Most of LTTE’s top tier leaders were also Christian or hid their Christian identity with Hindu names. The cadres were almost all low-caste impoverished Hindus. It would be interesting to find out how many of the LTTE cadres knew they too were pawns of Church sponsored Terrorism via LTTE.

One of the best kept secrets is that the LTTE had many ties to the Church.

For example, most of the top cadre of the LTTE were apparently Christians:

  • Prabhakaran aka Pirapaharan (Christian convert, a lapsed Methodist)
  • S.P. Tamil Selvam “”…” Christian
  • Balraj (Balasegaram Kandiah) “”…” Christian
  • Pottu Amman (Christian)
  • Prabhakaran’s son Charles Anthony “”…” Christian
  • Anton Balasingham – a Roman Catholic and LTTE’s self-declared “theoretician”.
  • Soosai (Thillaiyampalam Sivanesan) “”…” Christian
  • Thenmozhi Rajaratnam (nickname Dhanu), Rajiv Gandhi’s suicide bomber assassin – Christian

Church clergy openly supporting LTTE

  • Frs. Singarayer, Diyogupillai, Prof. (Fr.) Joseph Chandrakanthan, from the Department of Theology at the University of Toronto, a former President of the University of Jaffna Teacher’s Association
  • Father Jagat Gasper Raj-LTTE links. 
  • Fr. S. J. Emmanuel, former Vicar””‚General of Jaffna, who is now residing in Germany, is a prime example of the Church joining hands with the LTTE. He is on record saying that he is first a Tamil and then a Christian. He called Prabhakaran Jesus Christ, the LTTE soldiers of Christ, the suicide bombers, martyrs of the Catholic  Church to whom the Church provided a Catholic burial, and self-proclaimed himself, the Moses who would lead the Tamil nation from the bondage of the Sinhalese-Buddhists to the land chosen for them by God: Ealam. He leads the Global Tamil Forum.
  • Pro-LTTE S. Jebanesan, Bishop of the Church of South India (CSI), who said that he too was working on a theology for the Tamils. A theology only for the Tamils excludes Sinhala Christians.
  • Prof. S. Chandrakanthan attached to the Theology Department of the Toronto University, Canada is also pro-separatist pro-LTTE
  • Rev. Dick Wootton of Uniting Church, Melbourne, Australia
  • Bishop Kenneth Fernando of the Anglican Church, visited Prabakaran with Charles Abeysekera and Jayadeva Uyangoda and announced that “Prabakaran is humane” shocking all.
  • Rev Sr. Mary Barbara, Dr Anita Nesiah, M. Rajasigham, Joe William and T. Jayasingham of the National Peace Council are all supporters of LTTE.
  • Rajappu Joseph Bishop of Mannar, declared open the “Embassy of the Tamil Eelam”, the Eelam House in London.

The Mylapore Diocese works closely with former Tamil Nadu chief Minister while the CSI Church of South India keeps ties with the present Chief Minister.

Dixit too claimed that the entire Tamil clergy of the country supported the LTTE and obviously still do whilst the Sinhala Catholic and Christian clergy along with influential evangelical elites also support the same cause.

LTTE Voice of Tigers tied up with Radio Veritas, a Catholic broadcasting station run by Asian Catholic Bishops Conference based in Philippines. The Tamil Service of the Radio Veritas is run by the Tamil Catholics of Tamil Nadu. Voice of Tigers had a “coordinating office” inside St. Sebastians Church in Mallavi, Wanni the office was opened by pro-LTTE supporter Bishop of Mannar Fr. Rayappu Joseph. This same priest played a key role in getting the army out of the Madhu church premises though allowing LTTE to operate from inside the Church! Incidentally, Alfred Duraiappa the first assassin of Prabakaran had got off at the Madhu Church before proceeding to Jaffna and many believe it was a tip off from the Church that informed Prabakaran of Mr. Duraiappah’s arrival to Jaffna leading to his death.

Partisan role of the National Christian Council of SL and affiliates (SL Baptist Sangamaya, Christian Reformed Church of SL, Diocese of Kurunegala of the Church of Ceylon, Diocese of Colombo of the Church of Ceylon, Methodist Church, Sri Lanka, Presbyterian Church, Jaffna Diocese of the Church of South India, The Salvation Army, YWCA of Sri Lanka, YMCA of Sri Lanka, Ceylon Bible Society, Christian Literature Society, Students Christian Movement, Commission for Justice and Peace) have been working to balkanize Sri Lanka and have colluded with LTTE propaganda tarnishing the image of the country. This is proven by the World Council of Churches promoting the concept of traditional homeland theory in 1994 at the UNHRC in Geneva.

National Peace Council was formed in 1995 with the backing of NCCSL donors includes Catholic Agency for Overseas Development, NORAD, SLIDA and a number of EU, German donor organizations.

NCCSL and supporters take great pains to deny Sinhala Buddhists played a role in building the Sri Lankan nation and favorite topics include “state colonization”, “Tamil homeland” “ethnic war”, “Sinhala Buddhist chauvinism”, “genocide of Tamils” etc and have never referred to LTTE as a terrorist organization and rarely mentions atrocities committed by LTTE. Their reports and papers end up being quoted by the West. The concept of “self-determination” is being pushed by these Church forces to facilitate the creation of a Church-sponsored state.

Rev. Father Tissa Balasooriya needs special mention for his attempts to build bridges and unite people rather than disunite them.

LTTE AGAINST TAMIL HINDUS

Tamil Hindus need to realize they were or are not part of any Eelam being promoted in either Tamil Nadu or Sri Lanka. There are enough clues for the Tamil Hindus to realize this. Tamil Hindus need to open their eyes and think.

a)    Prabakaran demanded a separate state before highlighting discriminations is clearly indicative of the end goal devoid of compromise because that was the orders given. LTTE did not speak on behalf of Tamils discriminated in other parts of the world also shows LTTE’s lack of real concern for Tamils except to establish the end goal of a separate state for Christian West. That separate state was not meant for Tamil Hindus.

b)    Why did Prabakaran kill the entire moderate thinking Tamil Hindu leaders, politicians, academics and people respected in society? Did Prabakaran’s actions show any evidence that he or the LTTE were interested in protecting and fostering Tamil Hindu culture? The reality is Prabakaran made a mockery of Hindus and Hindu culture. Was it not the Hindus that lost lives, property and created the rift between Hindus and Buddhists in Sri Lanka (both followers of Hindu civilization religions and culturally closer than all others?) Did the LTTE not rule 90% of the Tamil Hindus through fear?

c)    By breaking the rigid caste factor LTTE was helping a long term plan.

d)    Why were nations of the West so supportive of the LTTE quest enough to allow London to be openly known as its international head-quarters?

e)    Can Tamil Hindus and Buddhists not see the amount of efforts being used through pro-Christian media channels to chagrin Buddhists and Hindus

f)     Can Tamil Hindus and Buddhists not see how many of the pro-Christian humanitarian organizations set up over 3 decades actually employed non-Christians? See how economically disadvantaged the ordinary Hindus and especially the Buddhists are.

CHURCH INFLIENCE ON INDIA

There is little debate that the strategy of the Church is to turn Tamil Nadu into a Christian state. Investments made in communication networks, journalism and other mass communication, television networks, schools, buying acres of land, putting up prayer houses close to Hindu temples, establishing foreign Christian missionaries, presence of NGOs, AID agencies and financing various projects is clear evidence.

That is not all the Church’s investments include using human weaknesses to plant Christians into ruling families, generous donations that assures silence of even politicians.

When the Church has money they know how to use it “”…” the target audience invariably becomes self-serving politicians, the vulnerable, the ambitious and the greedy. Through them the damage is artfully executed.

The power of the Church is such that the present Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu even repealed the anti-conversion law (in 2004) implemented by her own Government. For this she was rewarded with the Golden Star for Dignity and Honor from the International Human Rights Defense Committee (a Christian organization funded by USAID). She was also awarded with the “Bharath Jyothi” in 2005 and evangelist K A Paul presented Rs.1crores for tsunami relief. In 2003, Sri Lanka’s Buddhist and Hindu leaders also drafted a anti-conversion bill but heavy Church influence upon the Government has ensured reluctance to implement it.

There are some 3000 Churches/parachurches in and around Chennai, 46 Bible colleges, 23 Christian media centers, 122 Christian magazines in English and Tamil, 114 church planting missions. The Church sponsors rallies, posters, conventions etc. Christianity is broadcast via national Doordarshan, satellite/cable channels of GOD TV, CBN, TBN, MiracleNet, Daystar TV, Raj TV, Zee TV, Vijay TV, Blessing TV, Angel TV, Shalom TV, Jeevan TV and web-based telecasts like Jesus Calls, Num.TV. These Christian channels are relayed to 216 cities across India to an audience of 21million.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/independent-churches-mushroom-across-india-attracting-foreign-funds/1/136664.html

The Church’s successes in India include Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland and the coastal states of Kerala, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Adhdra Pradesh.
South of Cuddalore every fishing hamlet along Tamil Nadu’s vast coastline is almost 100% Christian with the Church getting Tamil Nadu fishermen to intrude into Sri Lankan waters with a gameplan to exert pressure on both Delhi and Sri Lanka and to provoke

CHURCH MANIPULATES  

The strategy of evangelists have been adopting is to continuously provoke people who do not agree to their line of thinking to the point of provoking attack and thereafter accusing them of intolerance and fanaticism and being communal. The increase of mosques/churches in Buddhist hinterland is one such example. Of course biased coverage is backed by reports that claim religious freedom is deteriorating due to Buddhist racists in Sri Lanka.  

What we see before us the application of Dominionism “”…” where Christians believe they have a God-given right to rule all earthly institutions. This has turned into a political agenda rather than a theological one which is why there are numbers of Christians who do not accept this current methodology. Most Christians are ignorant of these pan-Christian geo-regional plans. This new wave of Christian-Islamism at a political level are dangerous because it eats into the emotions of people and devastates their rational thinking.

The situation in South Asia is that there is a plan to destroy Hindu control in Tamil Nadu and Buddhist control in Sri Lanka. Pro-Christian politicians and self-serving non-Christian politicians are being influenced to legally and constitutionally change provisions that place Hinduism and Buddhism at official levels. The changes recommended to the national anthem, national ID cards, suggestion to remove Sinhala/Tamil New Year, blocking anti-conversion laws etc are such ploys being used.

It is important to view India’s stance on Sri Lanka after 2004 under the Italian leadership of the Congress. Tamil Nadu politicians are acting under orders and India’s Central Government, at least the Hindu leaders need to realize the impending dangers for their country. Sorry to say country’s ruling party chairperson is no friend to India.

The dangers India faces is the gullibility of political parties in Tamil Nadu to Christian strategies and the cluelessness of the BJP in Tamil Nadu giving Church-run Congress a cake-walk to balkanize India totally ridiculing the 82% Hindus of Bharath.

WAY FORWARD is to revive Hindu-Buddhist unity that the colonials purposely divided. For that objective a strong political agenda must prevail in Hindu leadership in India while a complimentary Buddhist scenario must prevail in Sri Lanka to save the two nations from disintegrating.

  • Tamils and Sinhalese must re-unite
  • Buddhists and Hindu’s must reunite
  • Both have no fear of converting each other and both are culturally linked and share common factors

The Leaderships of both nations need to realize the dangers that lurk for both nations and their people and place their own ambitions aside to ensure two of the oldest cultures of the world doesn’t fall to ruin by the decisions they take or do not take

45 Responses to “Eelaam is a Church funded LTTE-driven Pan-Christian Political Agenda”

  1. Senevirath Says:

    Hindus eradicated buddhism from india mainly because buddha dhamma is against hindu cast system. What a shame even in this century hindus kill low cast people! They will get it back from christians and islamists.
    TAMIL NADU WILL RUIN INDIA VERY SOON.

    WAKE UP INDIAN HINDU INTELECTUALS

  2. Lorenzo Says:

    “Tamil Hindus need to realize they were or are not part of any Eelam being promoted in either Tamil Nadu or Sri Lanka.”

    This is NOT TRUE.

    BIGGEST terrorists are TAMIL HINDUS.

    1 K Karunanidhi
    2 Jeyalalitha Jeyaram
    3 Psycho Vaiko
    4 Nedumoron
    5 Velupillai Pirapaharan (a HINDU not a Christian).
    6 Charles Anthony was a HINDU not a Christian. He was given this name to remember a VP loyalist who died.
    7 Amirthalingam
    8 Mrs Amirthalingam (the barbarian)
    9 MGR
    10 ALL TNA MPs except 1
    11 Ponnambalams (gradfather and father of Tamil Elam)

  3. Senevirath Says:

    All Tamils fight with north indians and sinhalese for a seperate home land irrespective of their religions. In the mean time””” high cast”” kill “””low cast” and fight with each other. The other dravidian states hate tamil nadu because they are the most uneducated and uncivilised people in india. good that they are not powerful to invade other countries. Otherwise they will be l ike islamists.

  4. Voice123 Says:

    Shenali, Lorenzo is correct. Eelam is a pan Tamil enterprise, including Hindus and Christians originally created and prompted by mostly Hindus in India. True, some Christians have attempted to hijack the project down the line. Dont tarnish all Christians with the same brush. Not all Christians support a western agenda, not all western colonialists are Christian. Some Westerners are quite anti Christian themselves, some use Christianity to promote white hegemony. Actually the overt cloak of Christianity was dropped a long time ago. I wish Shenali would wake up to the fact of white-supremacism or white-hegemony. This is the REAL threat to world peace, not religion. She NECER once mentioned the white supremacust threat. What is her real agenda, one wonders. Even in the colonial days, it was white hegemonists that were the biggest threat to the freedom and independence of coloured peoples globally. Perhaps Shenali should be saying Indians (of all religions) should unite with Sri Lankans (of all religions). Dont play the sectarian card. Brown folk will be the losers. White unity will be strengthened.

  5. Voice123 Says:

    Shenali NEVER once mentioned the white supremacist threat to the entire developing world, instead preferring to harp on endlessly about all Christians and Muslims. You cant build Sri Lankan or brown person unity this way. Youre still stuck in the 19th century. Look and see the bigger problem.

  6. S.Gonsalkorale Says:

    Lorenzo is right.
    Hindu extremists kovil is called “Church of Eelam”.
    It is the South Indians ( including Tamils) who finally killed off Buddhism in India.
    Tamils use all tricks including Church friendliness and “China is Buddhist ” myth to unify Hindus for establish Eelam in Sir lanka and then carve out South India for their dog rule. Dogs will never win, they will die of rabies.

    Meanwhile USA and the rest on a different agenda.

  7. Dilrook Says:

    Dravidistan demand first surfaced around 1919 in India by a group led by Periyar.

    Tamil Eelam concept was introduced in Ceylon by Ponnambalam Arunachalam in 1922. He was not a communalist until he was dragged into Tamil ethno-nationalist politics in 1921 by a group led by Tamil Mahajana Sabha (1918) (later became ACTC – 1944). The first casualty of this resurgent Tamil ‘nationalism’ was the Anglican church and Anglican schools of Jaffna.

    The current Tamil Elam rage in both Sri Lanka and South India is not divorced from history. It is a mere continuation of historical attempts to do so by Elara (205 to 161 BC), Chola (997 to 1070 AD) and other attempts. This historical perspective is needed to fully apprehend the problem and devise a resolution.

    There never was another Emperor Ashoka in ‘India’ and there never will be. It is futile to venerate India anymore as it is India that is behind all attempts of destabilising the island nation.

    Alfred Duraiappa the first victim of the revived Tamil Elam movement was a Christian married to a Hindu woman.

  8. Lorenzo Says:

    “Buddhists and Hindu’s must reunite”

    Reminds me a proverb used in school.

    One who keeps begging when repeatedly bashed is a fool. – SL
    One who keeps bashing when repeatedly begged (to stop bashing) is also a fool. – Endia

    We never learn.

    At the UNHRC when SL DESPERATELY needed friends, ONLY MUSLIM, CHRISTIAN and one Buddhist country came to our rescue. Where were the HINDUS? Busy plotting against SL!!!

    MOST Hindus in SL vote for TNA (LTTE) and Thonda.
    MOST Christian Tamils vote for UNP, SLFP and EPDP.

    Then there is Kasippu Joseph and his 132 terrorists – ALL Catholics. But these are just a fraction of them.

    Shenali should NOT forget Jeyaraj Fernandopulle – a Tamil Christian – killed by LTTE.

    Also Dr Sebastian Rasalingam, Dr Thomas Johnpulle, Dr Noel Nadesan – ALL Christians. They do a better job than our “very efficient” DIP-LOW-MATS.

  9. mario_perera Says:

    Shenali, while commending you for your articles, I must nevertheless say that you have totally missed the point as regards Tamil-Hindu affiliations and sympathies. You appear to have induced yourself into a dogmatic slumber in that regard. Remember the pithy Sinhala saying? However much you wash charcoal with milk. charcoal will never become white. Please get away from your present mind-set as regards the Tamil-Hindu psyche, because it vitiates your otherwise well written articles. Shenali, your attempt to draw Hindu-Tamils into the majority perspective of a unitary Lanka is like preaching bana to buffaloes.

    No offense meant to you Shenali, but it is high time your open your eyes to stark reality.

    Mario Perera
    Kadawata

  10. Piyadigama Says:

    Commenting as a concerned Buddhist I’m appalled by what happened in Papiliyana. 3 Buddhist monks were arrested for throwing stones at a Muslim man and his shop. We have to first point finger at us. I have not seen Islam, Hindu or Christian preachers doing such things in memorable history. Something we Buddhists say is not to push anything too far. This anti-Muslim affair has gone too far. Muslims suffered with Sinhalese during the war from Tamil Tigers. Now are we going to make enemies of them? Who will benefit? Tamils. I know they have big problems with violence. We have to solve that tactfully not by confrontation.

    Why do we kick our Muslim friends and embrace the enemy India? It doesn’t make sense.

    India wants just this. Sinhalese to fight Muslims and Christians so that Indians can take over Sri Lanka. I can remember some Tamil Tigers who commented here were trying the same thing trying to create division between Sinhalese and Muslims and Christians.

    Who built Buddhist education in this country when it was neglected? Ananda, Mahinda, Museus, Vishaka, Dharmaraja are some leading schools established by Christians by birth.

    What we should do is the oppositte of what Shenali says. We should build peace with Muslims and Christians so that we can face the Hindu threat.

    LTTE flag which is now the Tamil flag has a tiger. Look at the forehead. The tiger has Hindu ashes on it’s forehead. LTTE is a Hindu organisation.

  11. S.Gonsalkorale Says:

    What Padiyagama says is also true.
    What is the advantage the Buddhist get when men in robes throw stones at a Muslim shop ? NIL.

    They must throw rocks at provicial councils, offices, pc politicanns, Endian embassy etc until Endian 13 A is killed. That is the urgent matter now. Give full support to Gota and in fact force him towards this.

    Our stupid politican of all parties were busy collecting jarawa from Wahabis to create the Muslim problem until Tamil became National language in Colombo. Whahabis made villages, mosques and are in the process of introducing sharia now. However, Halal is over for the time being and 13A cancer must be treated NOW.

  12. Ratanapala Says:

    However unpalatable the truth is, Shenali is dead right. What happens in Sri Lanka should not be viewed in isolation. Happenings in neighbouring India in Tripura, Nagaland, Mizoram and other North Eastern tribal lands. They used to be Buddhist at one time till the Christian Evangelist hordes landed. They branded these cultures animist and pagan, although there is nothing more animist and pagan than the Christian Church in this world. The situation is the same with Karen in Burma and similar hill tribes in Cambodia, Vietnam cut off from the rest of the land in remote hill tracts. Today’s investigative articles by Sandhya Jain and Dr M K Teng point to these truths.

    In Sri Lanka it is the Christian Church, Christian West and Christian LTTE together with the Christian UNP, Christian Colombians and their boot licking ‘Buddhists’ nexus that is in force. It is sad to see that some of the boot licking ‘Buddhists’ comes from so-called Buddhist Schools!

    It is difficult to white wash the doings of the Christian Church and Christians by pointing out the names of a few Christian individuals who fought against the LTTE in the armed forces or in politics. We are yet to come across one Christian lay or church organization that spoke against the LTTE as an organized entity. There are individuals who had love for the motherland – Sri Lanka and her history and culture, but there is not a single occasion where they have taken issue with the Church on the issue of LTTE terrorism or other separatist forces in Sri Lanka as a collective! Most ran with the hares and hunted with the hounds!
    The song and dance of many including Air Chief Marshal Born Again Christian Harry Gunatilleke and other prominent Christians such as Bishop Chikera, was that the war was unwinnable – The military strategist he was, Harry Gunatilleke – even quoted military strategists Sun Tzu and Karl von Clausewitz to demoralize Sri Lankan Armed Forces and persuade politicians not to engage the Tamil Tiger Terrorists militarily.

    Their litany always ended with – Sinhalese Buddhists discriminating Tamil Hindus which was clearly a red herring to divert attention from the real perpetrators of division, disunity, and agenda for dismemberment of Sri Lanka as a stepping stone to balkanize India.

    Sri Lankan Christian Church’s position is that power should be devolved to the provinces – This is to make way for eventual formation of Eelam. They too have eye for the North Western Province to be declared a Christian Province and for the gradual and eventual evangelization of Sri Lanka.

    Evangelization is the softening Sri Lanka for eventual domination by the Christian West.

    Hindu – Buddhist problems are manageable and reversible. That is not the same with Christian / Islamic problems. Sinhala Buddhists dilemma is lack of leadership. The two influential Mahanaykes are just two rich land owning gents in Buddhist robes with little understanding of the threats on Sri Lanka, Sinhala Buddhist culture and Buddhists. Their ‘head in the sand’ attitude and continued silence on issues of importance has not helped at all.

    Let us not fail to see the woods for the trees! Let us see the bigger picture! What Shenali is potraying is the bigger picture and the mountains behind the trees!

  13. Sunil Vijayapala Says:

    guys i just got my fibre optic internet connection – oh what a feeling! never surfed internet at lightening speed! anyway shenali does research no one else does – we need to commend her for that. once on a corruption issue in pharmaceutical industry i had to correct her that there was so much money pharma companies spend, to the tune of (now) a billion dollars to spit out a single molecule. so prescription writers need to be looked after giving perks. as far as this forum is concerned she does a great job. very few in this forum are on the same plane, as we come form different backgrounds and consciousness levels.

  14. Lorenzo Says:

    “Born Again Christian Harry Gunatilleke”

    But his son Roshan Gunatilleke who is ALSO a born again Christian was the AIR FORCE COMMANDER when the air force hammered the LTTE left, right and centre!!

    His predecessor Donald Perera was also a Christian!!

    So was Clancy Fernando the former navy commander.

    So was Denzil Kobbekaduwa.

    IF EVER Hindu-Buddhist unity happens that PROTECTS SINHALA BUDDHIST (AND HINDU) UNITARY STATE OF SL, I will fly to the moon.

    NEVER is the word.

  15. Fran Diaz Says:

    The intent here is to find solutions to the problems faced by the Sinhala/Buddhist majority community of Sri Lanka.

    In my view, there are three main problems faced by the Sinhala Buddhist community.

    (1) The belief that there is no ‘God’. This belief is a somewhat isolating and lonely sort of belief. Contrary to the ‘no God theory’ the reality is that the same ‘something’ is there for everyone, of any religion. It is just that there are different words being used. ‘Truth’ (Sathya) was the word used in India for the word ‘God’. ‘Sathyameva Jayate’ the Indian motto means ‘Truth/God wins’. Truth/God/Allah means the same thing. There is no difference. When asked what Nirvana meant, the Buddha responded : “O Bhikkus, thre is the unborn, ungrown, and unconditioned. Were there not the unborn, ingrown and unconditioned, there would be no escape for the born, grown and conditioned. Since there is the unborn, ungrown and unconditioned, so there is escape for the born, grown and conditioned.
    Here the four elements of solidity, fluidity, heat and motion have no place; the notion of length and breadth, the subtle and gross, good and evil, name and form are altogether destroyed; neither this world nor the other, nor cmong, going or standing, neither death nor birth, nor sense objects are to be found”. Now that is a perfect and scientific description of the other dimensional Vastness, call it Truth/God/Allah. (See Rev.Walpola Rahula’s book “What the Buddha Taught” page 37).

    Because Nirvana is thus expressed in non material terms, there are many who think it expresses self annihilation. On the contrary, Nirvana means Union with God. “The Shinning dewdrop slips into the Shinning Ocean” said Edwin Arnold in his immortal book “the Light of Asia” (on the life of the Buddha). Similarly, Jesus said “I and my Father are One”. There is no destruction, only UNION with the Ultimate Vastness.

    (2) The next problem is Modern Economic Theory. Buddhists find it hard to accept making money just purely for the sake of making money & profits to feed the stock market, as in the Capitalist system. It goes against the grain of the Buddhist Right Thinking, Right Action, etc. (the Noble Eightfold Path).
    It is now apparent in the world that none of the economic -isms work well by themselves, and pure -isms are inimical to human life and happiness. The right combination of Socialism/Capitalism has to be found for Sri Lanka. Human well being & the preservation of the Environment must be the goals to reach, whilst other human needs (goods & services) are met.
    The book ‘Small is Beautiful’ (Schumacher), may prove very useful to Sri Lankans looking for answers to create a good economic climate.

    (3) Another problem is Security. If (1) & (2) are met with correct and balanced methods, then (3) ought not to prove difficult to handle.

    * All citizens in the country must be held responsible for the Security Issues of the Nation. An Oath of Allegiance a must, to be taken at a young age in all schools (private & public). Allegiance to foreign sources have to stop.

    * It is also a Security Issue to Modernise & Mechanise the local Labor sector, and not be over dependent on imported Tamil Labor as in British & Dutch times.

    * Language is also a Security Issue, given the stubborn & stuck world of Tamil Nadu (Caste/poverty). Sinhala language with English as a strong link language a must. Tamil may remain an Official language.

    * It is also a Security Issue to remove the 13-A from the Constitution, as well as deportation of all Illegal Migrants.

  16. Fran Diaz Says:

    There are other points to be added on:

    * Meditation for God/Truth realization. ‘Truth is within You’ said the Buddha. ‘The Kingdom of Heaven is Within You’ said Jesus. Islam means Peace (within). When people are at some peace within, a reasonable peace will automatically happen outside too.

    * Zero tolerance for illegal migration or importing permanent labor from any country. No sale of land to foreigners. Set limits to Leases, say, to a maximum 10 years.

    * Training in the Arts of Self Defence as in the Martial Arts. As someone suggested, should every Sinhela citizen be trained to form a standing army as in Switzerland, ready to defend the country ?

    * Use of Alternative Renewable Energies as much as is possible.

    * Re-vamp the Education System to meet the needs of the Nation.

    I am sure there are many more points to add …..

  17. Eusense Says:

    I hate to say this. You made a blunder with this article. I have nothing to add as the postings here have covered almost every aspect to dissect and refute your beliefs.

  18. Fran Diaz Says:

    Shenali has generated debate in seemingly deadlocked areas for which we thank her. She has written with good intent and that is good enough for us. The hours she has spent in research/writing articles is valued by almost all of the readers. As also we value and weep for the life blood split by the Sinhala villager to save the Nation, the entire Nation, from a fate worse than death at the hands of the ltte.

    We also would like to thank Lankaweb for offering space to write in and expose facts about the problems facing the Nation, with possible solutions.

  19. Fran Diaz Says:

    I forgot to add to the part on Meditation that in the Hindu religion, Raj Yoga IS Meditation. Also, the very ancient Upnishads advised people to “Know Thyself’ as did Greek philosopher Socrates.

  20. Nanda Says:

    Looks like Fran Diaz is preaching Sai Baba concept to Buddhist as a commentator to an article which argues whether Christian Church is funding LTTE (which is true).
    Buddha categorically denied the idea of “Creator God = Bhraman in Hinduism”. Are you the new Sai Baba to change Buddhism into Hinduism ? This is the main and formost threat to Buddhism in Sri lanka.
    In fact there are a lot of Sai Baba Vegitarians who are LTTE supporters.

  21. Nanda Says:

    Fran,
    Creator God of Hinduism visited Sariputta Thero to pay homage to him, which changes his mother to learn Buddhism. This is a proof of Brhaman is not Nibbana.
    You don’t have to preach Sai Baba Dhamma. He is gone. LTTEr’s can do it. Don’t be a fool.

  22. Lorenzo Says:

    Lets list down the FACTS.

    1 Shenali Waduge is the BEST WEAPON we have in this propaganda war.

    2 Lankaweb is the ONLY FREE SPEECH website on SL. We should thank those volunteers behind it.

    3 We should always use our BRAINS to FILTER what we hear, read, etc. according to KALAMA SUTRA. You can apply it WHATEVER your faith is.

    4 More than 133 Catholic priests including Kasippu Joseph petitioned against SL, helped LTTE. Some top Anglican priests also helped LTTE’s cause

    5 A FEW Tamil Christians and MANY Tamil Hindus are/were in the anti-SL camp including the LTTE.

    6 ALL Tamil Madu large political party leaders are Tamil Hindus.

    7 Sinhala LTTE are also there.

    e.g. Sucharitha Gamlath (LTTE political strategist kisses him on Tamilnet for the services he as done for the “Tamil Elam cause”)

    8 Tamil speaking Muslim traitors are also there.

    e.g. Hack-him

    9 Western countries also support Tamil Elam NOT because of any Christian thing but they always support DIVISION.

    10 Some Buddhist countries like Japan and South Korea deserted SL. Akashi is LTTE.

    CONCLUSIONS

    1 Tamil Elam is a TAMIL project irrespective of religion.

    2 Shenali Waduge is wrong this time. NO ONE can be right ALL THE TIME.

    3 We should NOT GENERALIZE on ethnicity, religion, gender, etc. unless it is so.

    4 Hindustan is our enemy. We should NOT kiss the hand we wish to cut.

  23. Fran Diaz Says:

    Nanda,

    I am attempting to show the UNITY in all religions & philosophies. You personally do not have to accept anything except through your own EXPERIENCE. It is because of basic misunderstanding of spiritual matters that people go to war. I am merely attempting to STOP war which starts in the human mind, therefore the Meditation part.

    I have never been at a Sai Baba meeting.

  24. Nanda Says:

    Sorry Fran.
    Only Sai Baba attempted to say what you are saying and what he promoted was in fact Hinduism, with Bhajan on Fridays sung by Colomban Sinhala Buddhists in some Buddhist temples even. Many Buddhist became vegetarians and joined Sai and started to spread this nonsense of God=Nibbana=Brahman=Allah.
    It will never be like this. How can it be ? Allah, who promotes killing and Jesus who killed fish cannot be compared with 200% peaceful Buddha.
    I agree that there are similar statements made by different religious leaders, but Islam is a terror religion. So is Hinduism to some extent if you take Gita literally. It is bows, arrows , shooting.

  25. Fran Diaz Says:

    Also, Nanda, I do not want to debate on any of the ‘tales’ that are told in any religion to emphasize certain points/lessons to masses of people of those times. Since the Buddha walked in the land of India after Hinduism had held sway over thousands of years there, the Buddha’s teachings must have been very modern for those times, as he stayed with the reality of life. The Buddha too is supposed to have related the Jathaka Tales to drive home certain points. I don’t want to confuse the reader with myth mixed with reality.

    The Buddha’s teachings are forever as they are about real life for all times. The Caste system which existed before Prince Siddhartha was born, must have been a thorn in society even then. I sometimes think that the word ‘God’ must have appeared to be meaningless to someone unfortunate enough to be born as an Untouchable in those times. Buddhism, as you know, rejects the Caste system.

    I think it is enough to take only the Core Teachings ONLY to show UNITY in all religions and philosophies.

  26. Sunil Vijayapala Says:

    it is our duty to up hold values based on whatever religon/philosophy etc. however our belief set is quite varied. nanda needs to be far more professional in dealing with statements made by others contradictory to his belief set. i have been with lankaweb from inception as this is run by my friend dharmasiri weerasinge who lives in england and planning to retire soon (i wonder what the fate of lankaweb be). he and i worked at valashena paper mill. of course i used the name sunil vijaya at the time i began writing to lankaweb.
    during the past years i have come across people who tend to attack the writer, some times callosly, rather than commentating on the issue or statements made by the author. in fact it shows the weakness or some complex of that person. of course if a person attacks me personally i react.
    in this case fran has mixed up with nibbaner and extended that to meeting with god and now says he wanted to draw parallelism in religions, which is a dangerous area to ponder as buddhism is neither a religion nor a philosphy. it could be best defined as Noble Truth. i have stated this ‘n’ times in this forum. baka or omnipotent god, he(thathagata) himself was once, but was a fool like any other being who suffer in this sansaara. enlightenment came slowly with millions of births and deaths eventuating in buddhagaya, like every other buddhas previous to him. those who believe in a god has both fear and faith and we buddhist and jains who do not belive in a god, fear karma vipaaker, which drives us to be virtuous. jataka tales are not myths or tales – buddha related these in suttras, where he showed the relationship of cause and effect or karma(actions) and vipaaker or action and reaction. he always had a simile to explain things to puthajjanas who had difficulty in understanding his statements, which were contradictory to vedas and vedantas.

  27. S.Gonsalkorale Says:

    Fran’s intentions seems to be pure and honest. However he is confused the truth with the myths.

    The statement , “Since the Buddha walked in the land of India after Hinduism had held sway over thousands of years there,..”, is grossly wrong. There was no “Hindustan” in Buddha’s time.
    There was no HINDUISM in Buddha’s time, whence Brahmins use to kill anumals for sacrifices. Now Brahmins are vegetarians ! That shows that the Buddhism combined with old Brhaminism and very old vedic stuff has created the most unfortuante religion called “HINDUISM”.

  28. Ratanapala Says:

    Lorenzo, It is rather disingenuous and shameful to say that Clancy Fernando and Gen Denzil Kobbekaduwa are Christians. They are both devout Buddhists. As for Born Again Roshan Gunatilleke he had no alternative other than to do what he was told. We respect your writings on behalf of our motherland. Please check your sources before jumping into conclusions.

  29. Lorenzo Says:

    Ratanapala,

    Church services were done by their families after their death.

    Even if it is not true, that still leaves PLENTY of Christians in the security forces.

    Let me add another 6 IF those 2 come out.

    Denis Perera (VSV) (former army commander)
    Ralph Nugera (RWP, RSP)
    FFRM Fernando (RWP, RSP, WWV,RWP)
    Nimal Jayasuriya (RWP, RSP)
    Mendaka Samarasinghe (RWP RSP USP)
    Kalum Rajapakse

    How about the HINDUS? I can’t think of ANY HINDU in high ranks in the DEFENDERS OF THE NATION!!!

  30. Voice123 Says:

    “What we should do is the oppositte of what Shenali says. We should build peace with Muslims and Christians so that we can face the Hindu threat.”

    -piyadagama is dead RIGHT. Dont worry, most sane Christians and Muslims recognise those people in robes throwing stones are not real Buddhists. Shenali and Ratnapal are barking up the wrong tree and leading SL down a precipice. True, Hindu nationalists also loathe western hegemony, but no common cause can ever be found with them because Hindu nationalists loathe Sri Lanka even MORE!

  31. Lorenzo Says:

    “Hindu nationalists loathe Sri Lanka even MORE!”

    ABSOLUTELY!

    For Hindus (Endians) SL WAS a Hindu country until Buddhism was introduced.

    Endia (Hindus) SUCCESSFULLY wiped out Buddhism from Endia but SL is the THORNE. NORTH Endian Kalinga Maghan tried hard to wipe out Buddhism in SL but failed. Now Endia sends millions of Hindu INVADERS (kallathonis) to COLONIZE SL and turn it back to a Hindustan.

    Read Tamilnut to understand how passionate LTTE is to PROTECT Hinduism in SL.

  32. Fran Diaz Says:

    Appreciate comments on my views. My main concern is for the welfare of the Sinhala/Buddhist masses who comprise over 50% of the people here. They are the ones who have suffered most through the some 500 yrs of Colonial rule, the various uprisings of the JVP & ltte, Cold War, etc. They are ones who die in for the country in the various internal wars, or get killed in uprisings. All others have powerful external friends through their respective religions.

    Sinhala/Buddhists must become far more active in the growth of the economy of Lanka, and growth in all other spheres as well. They need to become active and wise participants, not be bystanders watching their own lives & security being frittered away in other peoples wars.

    I firmly believe that finding common ground in the Core Teachings of various religions is the lasting safety net for the masses of Lanka. Meditation & Contemplation are the twin keys to achieve this goal. Those who Meditate together, stay together, at least in a relative peace & harmony, as they begin to understand the true nature of life itself.

  33. Christie Says:

    From what I know Tamil terrorists, the Indian terrorist outfit contribute a lot to Christian charities in the West. Money coming from India and Indians living outside India. Tamils are Indians.

    It is time we think correctly and look at facts as they are. Indians who are Hindus can easily accomodate the Christian God to their pack of gods.

    I know one one such Tamil who was a Batist lay preacher who was to be the Governor of the Eelam of Ezam Tamils who was treated with a Hindu funeral ceromony. He was felicitated with the highest terrorist felicitation Mahamathir by the Indian terrorist puppet Parabakan post-humously.

  34. Ratanapala Says:

    Eelaam is a Church funded LTTE-driven Pan-Christian Political Agenda – This is the title of the article here. Much of the responders are straying away from the topic and confusing the main issues so well articulated by Shenali. The larger picture of ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka is that it is a construct of the Christian West ably assisted by the Christian Church on the ground in Sri Lanka and abroad to dismember Sri Lanka as a stepping stone to balkanise India. It is the Christian Church and its organizations that took the Eelam message around the world and collected funds, lobbied with foreign governments with the intent of dismembering Sri Lanka. Some Sri Lankan Christians and even bootlicking Sinhala Buddhists abroad assisted in this dastardly unpatriotic work.

    Sri Lanka has been a political and geographical entity for millennia, while India is only colonial construct. India as we knew in history was a notional land with no specific geographical boundaries.

    We acknowledge there are patriotic Christians, Muslims and even Hindus who are for a Unitary Sri Lanka. The fact of the matter is while acknowledging their commitment and heroism – to say a few “Swallows do not make a Summer” Then there are others who just did their duty and yet again there were those, who foot dragged while serving in the services. The main point I want to emphasize is that there wasn’t even a single organized attempt by any Christian Organization worth its name who took up issues with the Christian Church for its dastardly agenda and conduct . They all kept mum sympathizing with the Sinhalese, while condoning all Anti- Sri Lanka work of the Christian Church. Sinhala Christians have a lot of soul searching to do if they and really intent on achieving any reconciliation with the Sinhala Buddhists, simply because we know what you did collectively during the last 30 years giving moral support to the Tamil Racists.

    The victory at Nanthi Kadal was possible mainly due to the preparation of the ground swell by the likes of Ven Madihe Pannaseeha Maha Thero and Soma Thero and a host of other Sinhala patriots. It was this factor that maintained discipline not to react to acts of grave provocations over a period of 27 years and over 370 suicide-attacks – and stood firm with the notion that the war with the Racist Tamils was winnable. It is the Sinhala Buddhist nation that provided without any reservation or demand the necessary military might to President Rajapakse, the Defense Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapakse to lead the war and finish in right royal fashion. The Great Humanitarian Operation that went with the slogan “Zero Civilian Casualties” has no parallel anywhere in the world. Even though it may not have happened in practically impossible instances – that was the actual intent.

    The Chrisitan West knew that it was an operation that would have been given the Noble Peace Price for, but took entirely the opposite action to vehemently negate the truth. What can we expect in a world where this so called Peace Price was given to the likes of President Obama for “no show” and to the EU for carrying out genocide and regime change!

  35. Ratanapala Says:

    As for Fran Diaz, Please refrain from trying to bring in the God virus into the sublime teachings of Lord Buddha. Buddhism is one religion that gives a world view without a creator. Even the latest scientific findings suggest that there is no need for a creator to explain the happenings of the seen universe to function as it was and is. As for mediation that you so actively promote, there are and have been many practices of meditation in other religions, but it is only in Buddhism that you find meditation taken to majestic heights. Buddhist mediation leads through systematic investigation of the mind to ultimate achievement of Nibbana and Enlightenment. Lord Buddha categorically rejected the notion of God as preached by the Brahmins and Rishis of his time. So there is no “Shining Dew drops falling into the Shining Ocean” join with the Godhead or Atman in Buddhism.

    It is rather disingenuous to bring the notion of God into the subject of Buddhism by subtle means. Please don’t try to equate the blood thirsty, burnt flesh loving Abrahmic God – jehovah or Allah or Jesus to equate with Ultimate Truth. The Ultimate Truth is the realisation of Nibbana and definitely not a union with a blood thirsty tyrant who loves bloody sacrifices and his celestial dictatorship.

    Please refrain from this unholy exercise of trying to slowly creep into relevant political discussions and lead astray the line of debate and argument. You can contribute to the welfare of Sinhala Buddhist simply by being honest and forthright. Practice your religion and do it honestly. When you find obvious contradictions in your religion – like why should I worship a God who loves the smell of burnt flesh – Leviticus- then it is time to resort to higher levels of investigative thinking and Buddhist meditation to find the real truth!

  36. Nadesan Says:

    My Dear Shenali, Where did you find out that Buddha visited Sri Lanka? How did he come and how many times did he visit? So…so…you believe there was Krishna, Rama and even Hanuman, so there was other man’s wife stealing Ravana too? Will you say where you got these facts established or you saw in a dream. Really what are you up to and do you think that Sri Lankan people, especially some Sinhala Buddhists and also some Tamils who hang around here in this forum who are clapping for all what you say like Lorenzo and Kanthar could be taken for a good ride?

    Is there anyone doubts that majority of Sri Lankans are Sinhala Buddhists. Do you need any more proof for that and to prove this obvious truth do you need to tell the gullible this unwanted kathawa? So your recent invention of Rama visiting Sri Lanka was only to destroy Sri Lanka and not to retrieve his wife from this wife hora Ravana?

    My dear lady no one disputes the fact about Sinhalas and Buddhism in SL and so you don’t need to have this paranoid idea of people trying to destroy the Sinhala Buddhists. The minorities (I can speak for Tamils) only struggle for their rights in Sri Lanka and not to challenge or threaten the majority’s rights and privileges. By you concocting stories (kathawa) you create dissension, disharmony and even help to weaken the majority rights.

    Don’t see ghosts lady. The real enemies are the ones who writes lies and promote hatred and suspicion in various deviant ways some as anti Tamils, some as anti Christians and some as anti Muslims. Some Sinhalese think that by being a racist or cooking up stories they become patriots and they serve their race. There are also some Tamils who write some rubbish that make some unsuspecting Sinhalese happy by falsely and mischievously condemning and even lying about their own race too are crooks who are really anti Sinhala Buddhists with a hidden agenda. Lying is not going to help any one Shenali. You are doing a disservice to your very race and religion!

  37. Christie Says:

    There are facts that no British or Indians (includes all kinds of Indians, Tamils, Sikhs, Keralayans etcetc) like to admit as facts when seen through the eyes of victims of Indian Colonialism and Imperialism. Any victim who rebel becomes the worst human being on earth. Take Idi Amin a man who kicked the Indian colonial parasites out of Uganda. The best example of Indian colonial parasite is Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi or Bapu or Mahathma Gandhi. He made his financial and political fortunes out of Black Africa.He man who refused to travel with blacks because they not good enough for him.
    Tamils in in the island are the only group of in the who can claim that they lived away across 27km separated by the sea for thousands of years and have the same properties of the originals. Something the Vikings or French in British isles do not claim. These people have integrated with the locals over the years. Tamils and other Indians in the island came with the British as Sepoys, administrators and coolies and they are not different to other Indian colonial parasites in Fiji to West Indiies and in between including the island nation.
    Ramayana is a Hindian story and I am sure Rawana the great went to Indian subcontinent for hunting, his hobby or sport. Hunting for the opposite sex is part of the game and I am sure Seeta with other women accompanied the great hunter and other hunters back to his home. It was not a possible thing those days to carry a protesting woman all that way. I am sure she enjoyed Rawana on the way and also the stay with him in the island Lankadweepa. There are lots of facts in old stories and one has to look at them without any beliefs. One is free to believe that Seeta has kept her pathiwata as most of the Indians believe of their female parners.

    Pl leave my comment.

  38. Nadesan Says:

    Christie,

    So you believe that there was a Ravana who trekked thousands of miles in search of women as he could not find any women in Dhamma Deepa who could satisfy his extreme carnal desire? By the way who this Ravana is? Is he a Sinhalese, Tamil, Naga, Yaksha or Veddha? So in addition you also have proof that this Ravana had the ability to even satisfy this woman Seetha whom he abducted from India and worst still a married woman? My dear Christie, will you be able to say what special capability this Ravana had compared to other men in India including her swamiya Rama? Do you mean to say that Ravana was so well endured to satisfy not only Seetha but other women too at one go? How did these women find out about Ravana’s great stamina and stand mate? Did he too have the habit of lifting his dress to expose his person to passing by women, a habit that is still heavily practised in SL?

    Christie, thank god Ravana or similar guys are not around in large numbers back at home and otherwise our story teller Shenali too may get lifted from her home and you may have to play the role of Hanuman to salvage her and hand her over back to her swamiya. And let all hope and pray that she was not preyed upon during the period of detention by the great Romeo and sex starved Ravana. Did you hear Christie what one of our leading ministers (of Passikudah fiasco where his son was photographing his friend naked with another man’s wife)? He told publicly that in Sri Lanka almost 80 percent of court cases are sex related! Oh God Christie, you are right man and Ravana still lives on! Hmm…you have more than anything else have salvaged Shenali of what she wrote!

  39. Lorenzo Says:

    Nadesung is still weeping about what happened to Thalaivar, Mathivathany and Vesaipiriya in May 2009.

  40. Nadesan Says:

    Oh Dear Appe Lorenzo from Lawrence Road Wellawatte is back with his sarcasm. Where is your Dhemalu Yahaluwa Kanthar by the way? I heard some where that you are joining the Bala Sena entourage to the west to campaign for their determination and dedication, especially by its leader Galboda Thero. Lorenzo..So did you happen to read this or you don’t read these things for obvious onesided views in which some of you guys are totally immersed and soaked in:

    [Court documents obtained by the Colombo Telegraph show that Bodu Bala Sena General Secretary and vociferous hardline monk, Galabodaaththe Gnanasara pleaded guilty to hit-and-run charges filed against him by Grandpass police in 2000. On September 20, 2000, the monk was fined Rs. 12,000 by Traffic Courts, Colombo 12. The accident occurred on April 14, the same year, causing injuries to two others named Mohamed Rifai and Ravindra Kumar. Gnanasara Thera was driving lorry number 6 Shri 5444. Among the charges against him were drunk driving, speeding, driving without a valid licence and failing to report the accident. The monk pleaded guilty to all 9 charges.]

    Massina Lorenzo can you see how unique gullible some of you guys could be and if so for what? Is it pure ignorance or vested interest or as Shenali very ably discovered a Christian Coup to destroy Sinhala Buddhism. Your name does not sound a Sinhala Buddhist name and could this be another agent working from within to undermine our very survival? You appear as Tamil in one place, then as a devout Buddhist and then as a Katholika insider….all very confusing brother as exactly what is happening in our country.

    So as I told you earlier this time you are sure to get rotten eggs and not soaps. Perhaps you may deserve that!

    By the way before I forget did your pal receive a reply from Obama? Dd you also read that Obama was receiving several such letters some even contain deadly poisons like Ricin. Ricin is referred to as a “super poisons” and obtained from appe endera atta (castor plant or Aamankku in Dhemala) and botanical name Ricinus Communis. You may have read about the Bulgarian dissident who was killed in London by ricin poison some years ago near Waterloo Station employing an improvised gun in an umbrella! At least after you left for Canada you may have read this and this is how dirty communists operate! But I am worried about Kanthar and whether the ugly Americans may be looking for him after his anti-Tamil letter which may be considered as a deviant tactic that Tamil terrorists and former terrorists used to do, LTTE inner circle of supporters included?

  41. Nadesan Says:

    Lorenzo you utter the following:

    [How about the HINDUS? I can’t think of ANY HINDU in high ranks in the DEFENDERS OF THE NATION!!!]

    You have become a court Jester for this forum man! I don’t think that you use any common sense when you utter these words or you are suffering from severe dementia. Hindus are always Tamils and how many Tamils are there in the armed forces to begin with? That is why many refer to SL military as Sinhala military as it does not represent the national ethnic percentage. Lorenzo Andare are you aware that Tamils are not recruited into the armed forces?

    You just blabber and whiling away your time in this forum simply because you have nothing else to do. You are again and again proving that you are a shallow person with mischievous agenda. Your only interest is to create hatred among the different communities and ensure that there will never be any peace in Sri Lanka. The way things are going you may achieve your aims?

  42. Nadesan Says:

    [Lorenzo, It is rather disingenuous and shameful to say that Clancy Fernando and Gen Denzil Kobbekaduwa are Christians. They are both devout Buddhists. As for Born Again Roshan Gunatilleke he had no alternative other than to do what he was told. We respect your writings on behalf of our motherland. Please check your sources before jumping into conclusions.]

    No one should take Lorenzo seriously, he is a comedian for Lankaweb. He is working with certain objectives! But it is funny how he works for His Motherland and if so how?

  43. Christie Says:

    Ramayana is the gretest Hindu epic, is it? The story is the same all around India but their are suttle differences. The charater Seetha is abot the “pathiwatha of a female” faithful female. The nuture does not fit one male to one female. Seetha looked after her ‘Pathiwatha” until Rama rturned and took her back, probably not with enthusism. This sets out the behavior of women towards men witin hindunism. One man and when the guy pass away you are to jump in the funeral fire. If the man dies before then, if you are good looking it is a feast for the Brahmins of the Temple.
    The English goes for hunting expeditions these days too nad hunting safaris for tourists are stll common around the world. Rwana was a man from Lankadweepa I am sure that is the name in the Ramayana. It was long before the days of “Dhamma”. Those days there were no Tamils in the island nation and locals were hunters. They were hunters until early last century.
    Buddhism does not forbid eating meat and if you kill an animal then you pansil again.
    By the way Chinmaya Foundation has built a temple of some sort near BelihulOya where Rawana kept beautiful Seetha. I am sorry if I hurt feelings or beleifs of some.
    There are evidnec to show Buddha may have born, lived and preached in the island. Asoka the Great learned in hi mission and re-exported back to the island afte some tinkering with Hindian paint.

  44. Christie Says:

    Ramayana is the gretest Hindu epic, is it? The story is the same all around India but their are suttle differences. The charater Seetha is abot the “pathiwatha of a female” faithful female. The nuture does not fit one male to one female. Seetha looked after her ‘Pathiwatha” until Rama rturned and took her back, probably not with enthusism. This sets out the behavior of women towards men witin hindunism. One man and when the guy pass away you are to jump in the funeral fire. If the man dies before then, if you are good looking it is a feast for the Brahmins of the Temple.
    The English goes for hunting expeditions these days too nad hunting safaris for tourists are stll common around the world. Rwana was a man from Lankadweepa I am sure that is the name in the Ramayana. It was long before the days of “Dhamma”. Those days there were no Tamils in the island nation and locals were hunters. They were hunters until early last century.
    Buddhism does not forbid eating meat and if you kill an animal then you pansil again.
    By the way Chinmaya Foundation has built a temple of some sort near BelihulOya where Rawana kept beautiful Seetha. I am sorry if I hurt feelings or beleifs of some.
    There are evidnec to show Buddha may have born, lived and preached in the island. Asoka the Great learned in hi mission and re-exported back to the island afte some tinkering with Hindian paint.

  45. Nadesan Says:

    Christie,

    what do you mean “nature does not fit one male to one female”? Are you referring to polygamy? May be ..may…be..but civilization and social reforms have made attempts to confine one man to one woman but as you feel you have the right to graze around but that does not mean that all practice of what you believe in! You may even be referring to the so-called Kandyan Hospitality, or wife swapping parties that are pretty common in Colombo?

    Coming to hunting safaris, present day hunting safaris and hunting during Ravana’s time must have been entirely different! Thousands of miles, no Mihin Air, no helicopter, no entourage, no five star hotels, snake and wild beast infested jungles, Malaria, etc and by the time Ravana reached his destination he would not have had a chance to do anything leave aside having any form sexual activity with Seetha? Or could this be the reason why Seetha remained a “pathivitha” or “pathivirathai”! Christie, you compel me to believe the well known saying, “virginity is the lack of opportunity”! But Seetha being a married woman would not have been a virgin to begin with unless of course Rama was impotent but there is no proof for that unless some historians find out this too.

    By the way you have not clarified my question as to whether Ravana was a Sinhala? Going in search of married women and that too by trekking for thousands of miles through the jungles ( being a very irresponsible act for a King), abducting women and craving for music ( I am sure no baila by then) are all pointing to a Sinhala stock. Incidentally you are well aware of our Muslim revolutionaries or Jihadis who kill in the name of Allah and how they are rewarded for suicide bombing? Immediately after they end up in heaven and eighteen virgins await them! Imagine what a gift and don’t you think it is a well deserving reward? No trekking through the jungles, no physical exhaustion and also you know how difficult it is, especially today, to find any virgins! I am sure had Ravana been here today he too would have become a Jihadis all for having eighteen virgins in one go. My dear Christie I presume that you are an old gentleman so you may not totally appreciate what I say here but for a young, virile man eighteen “original” virgins are a great gift.

    Regarding Buddha, where did you find out that he was born here? Could you quote some authentic reference and not what is being uttered by people like Shenali or Lorenz or Kanthar who are coming out with kathawas! After SL Sinhalas fallen out with Indians, especially after the recent UN fiasco, some even deny the traditional belief that Buddha was born in India and instead they have now shifted to Nepal. Many of our friends still not realised that Nepal is a strong Hindu kingdom. May be juts to spike the Indian (or Hindians as you prefer to call) now they have invented this Nepali connection.

    So Christie, you with a Christian name, barge into this controversy and even claim that Buddha was born in Sri Lanka. This may upset many Buddhists here because they have settled down to the belief that though Buddha was born in India (also Nepal) but visited Sri Lanka a couple of times. Didn’t you hear one of our several ministers uttering at a public rally that Buddha even visited his holly electorate of Mahiyangana? How did Buddha visit Sri Lanka is still a mystery and so you may be coming out with this novel idea that he was born right here in Sri Lanka! Ravana’s safari to north India in search of women and Buddha’s visits to Sri Lanka to reform the barbarians into a civilised people appear to be a similar exercise but for different purposes. Christie is there any evidence that Ravana provoked Buddha to embark on his mission.

    Christie I am sure that you will not disagree that there are plenty of confusions of all what we hear, read and believe, isn’t it and if so why these idiots are fighting with one another? Or do you think that if not for these controversies many of our so-called intellectuals will go out of jobs?

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