“The Cure for Dengue”-This is in response to the comments of Wickrama of September 30 on the article featured on your website entitled “The Cure for Dengue”
Posted on October 3rd, 2011

 

Joe De Livera  Colombo Sri Lanka

I was interested to read the comments of Wickrama who has taken upon himself the onus of debunking Homeopathy which he equates to the “rubbish” of Astrology. It is likely that he has never had occasion to use Homeopathy and is perhaps one of those who slavishly depend on their doctor’s advice to keep taking Pills as a way of life and were referred to in another Sri Lankan paper, the Daily Mirror where I was quoted in their Editorial entitled:

THE PILL POPPING CULTURE

http://print.dailymirror.lk/editorial/106-editorial/56457.html

Big Pharma depends on people like Wickrama to maintain their revenue as the cure of any ailment by Homeopathy is achieved at a fraction of the cost of taking drugs to hopefully cure the disease. I would recommend that he reads the Editorial in the link above as he will perhaps realize, albeit rather late in his life, that he has been brainwashed into believing that good health is only possible by taking the numerous Pills that he is perhaps Popping even today, on a daily basis.

I would recommend that he visits my website:

www.joedelivera.com for more information on “Joepathy” which has recently been highlighted in the news media. This term was coined by a group of Classical Homeopaths about 10 years ago to derisively describe my therapy which they classified as “This for That” which I persisted in using, in the manner that a doctor would prescribe any drug for an ailment. The Homeopathic rule in prescribing was to “Treat the totality of the symptoms presented by the patient with a single remedy”. I used this diktat in the past and soon discovered that it only resulted in the patient’s agony being prolonged. I dared to differ and was branded as a maverick and it was then that these classical homeopaths discovered that my therapy aka Joepathy resulted in an almost 100% rate of cure which was of course anathema to them as they could see from the cures that resulted and were recorded on the Homeopathic websites I visit even today, that patients addressed their requests for assistance to me as they had proof of the successful outcome.

The fact remains that Homeopathy used on my “this for that” basis is now being taken very seriously in comparison to the classical therapy which does not usually work and may have been the reason for Wickrama to make his abrasive comments.

Joe De Livera

Colombo

Sri Lanka

8 Responses to ““The Cure for Dengue”-This is in response to the comments of Wickrama of September 30 on the article featured on your website entitled “The Cure for Dengue””

  1. Dr Usuf Says:

    It is very apparent that Mr Wickrama is debunking homoeopathy without knowing what homoeopathy is. Lots of good things that are empirically proved over the centuries as good are thus debunked. Acupuncture was at the receiving end of much negative criticism oveer the years till the WHO recognised it as an effective therapeutic system. At the moment science has no knowledge to sufficiently prove or disprove the efficacy of homoeopathy. This is so as Homoeoapthy is ‘energy medicine’ and works at bio-energetic level. No contemporary lab instrument can detect, monitor nor measure the drug at work at energy level as the drugs administered are not gross at material quantities like alloapthic drugs in pill/capsule form which can be detected, monitored or measured. Moreover, Homoeopathy is not placebo medicine as some critics are fond of calling it. If it is so then how come infants and animals not prone to subjective feelings recover from disorders. Millions are cured by homoeopathy everyday. Presently, it is an empirical verity which someday tottering science would proclaim as true! Till then the homoeopathic community has to learn to tolerate the likes of Mr Wickrama!

  2. Fran Diaz Says:

    Once again, Hurrah for “Joepathy” and our thanks to Dr Joe de Livera for bringing alive Homeopathy in Lanka ! An interesting item to record here is that in America some homeopathy medicine companies produce what are called Complex Homeopathy pills, which are pills made of mix of homeopathy medicines for a particular disease. For instance, the company called Luyties produces a Complex medicine for Bronchial Irritation composed of the following meds.in low potencies of 3 & 6:
    Aconite 3x, Bryonia 3x, Causticum 6x, Phos.6x.
    We find the Complex meds. easy to use and delivers quick results, at least enough relief so that the body can recover quickly with least amount of suffering.
    See more products from Luyties at http://www.1-800homeopathy.com/luyties. I do hope that Sri Lankans produce their own homeopathy medicines and make Lanka a healthy nation.

  3. Wickrama Says:

    Mr. De Livera must be having a terrible grudge against a doctor or some doctors to casually reject the Medical Science as a “PILL POPPING CULTURE”, although he must be fully aware that billions of pills are taken by millions of people for successful cure/control/management of thousands of different health problems. I need not remind him that Medical Science has been developed over the centuries by hardworking people using various scientific methods of research, analysis, experimenting and testing in order to bring it to the current level, and that these developments are still continuing, and, that in addition to “PILLS” there are various other methods such as injections, vaccinations, surgery etc are being used by medical science for treatment.

    My comments he is referring were against Homeopathy and not Joepathy although it also seems to be following the same absurd “principle” of believing that super-ultra-hyper dilution of “ingredient” in water to do the trick. I do not have to debunk homeopathy because it has been already done! For the benefit of Dr Usuf, Fran Diaz and other readers (I am sure Mr. De Livera’s eyes and mind are closed on this matter), I hereby quote following;

    “Homeopathy: The Ultimate Fake”

    “Basic Misbeliefs

    Samuel Hahnemann (1755-1843), a German physician, began formulating homeopathy’s basic principles in the late 1700s. Hahnemann was justifiably distressed about bloodletting, leeching, purging, and other medical procedures of his day that did far more harm than good. Thinking that these treatments were intended to “balance the body’s ‘humors’ by opposite effects,” he developed his “law of similars”—a notion that symptoms of disease can be cured by extremely small amounts of substances that produce similar symptoms in healthy people when administered in large amounts”

    “At Best, the “Remedies” Are Placebos

    Homeopathic products are made from minerals, botanical substances, and several other sources. If the original substance is soluble, one part is diluted with either nine or ninety-nine parts of distilled water and/or alcohol and shaken vigorously (succussed); if insoluble, it is finely ground and pulverized in similar proportions with powdered lactose (milk sugar). One part of the diluted medicine is then further diluted, and the process is repeated until the desired concentration is reached. Dilutions of 1 to 10 are designated by the Roman numeral X (1X = 1/10, 3X = 1/1,000, 6X = 1/1,000,000). Similarly, dilutions of 1 to 100 are designated by the Roman numeral C (1C = 1/100, 3C = 1/1,000,000, and so on). Most remedies today range from 6X to 30X, but products of 30C or more are marketed.”

    “Actually, the laws of chemistry state that there is a limit to the dilution that can be made without losing the original substance altogether. This limit, which is related to Avogadro’s number, corresponds to homeopathic potencies of 12C or 24X (1 part in 10 to the power24). Hahnemann himself realized that there is virtually no chance that even one molecule of original substance would remain after extreme dilutions. But he believed that the vigorous shaking or pulverizing with each step of dilution leaves behind a “spirit-like” essence—”no longer perceptible to the senses”—which cures by reviving the body’s “vital force.” Modern proponents assert that even when the last molecule is gone, a “memory” of the substance is retained. This notion is unsubstantiated. Moreover, if it were true, every substance encountered by a molecule of water might imprint an “essence” that could exert powerful (and unpredictable) medicinal effects when ingested by a person”

    Extracted from the full article at;

    http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html

    which is just one of the many websites that can be obtained by googling “debunking homeopathy”

  4. Fran Diaz Says:

    Please consider the following points before passing judgment on Homeopathy :

    * If Homeopathy is quackery, why has the Royal Family of Britain used it for three generations ?
    * Why does India and several European countries have state or privately run Homeopathy Colleges & hospitals ?
    * Why is it mandatory for French medical students to study Homeopathy ?
    * Why have several businesses continued to produce Homeopathy medicines, some doing so for over one and half centuries, in both Canada & the USA and Europe.
    * INDIA especially uses homeopathy medicines and has published the necessary books for self study in English and other languages.
    * Homeopathy has been proved to be very effective in treatment of illness in animals and even plants.
    * In our view, Homeopathy simply balances the mind & body and acts as a deep seated catalyst to help the body heal itself, naturally and gently. We recommend that diagnosis of illness be done too, through lab reports and doctors. In the case of new patients using Homeopathy, please note that homeopathy is usually tried by a patient only after other methods of healing have failed to help.

  5. Wickrama Says:

    Fran,

    * If Homeopathy is quackery, why has the Royal Family of Britain used it for three generations ?

    ## Did the Royal family used ONLY HP? If not, what percentage were HP and Conventional Medicine? What were the ailments/sicknesses? What were the success ratios?

    * Why does India and several European countries have state or privately run Homeopathy Colleges & hospitals ?

    ## Why does NOT 100odd other countries?

    * Why is it mandatory for French medical students to study Homeopathy ?

    ## Why NOT for American, British, German, Russian, etc; etc; etc; etc; etc; etc; etc; etc; etc;………………………………

    * Why have several businesses continued to produce Homeopathy medicines, some doing so for over one and half centuries, in both Canada & the USA and Europe.

    ## SUPPLY and DEMAND – To supply for the fools who demand them, of course !!

    * INDIA especially uses homeopathy medicines and has published the necessary books for self study in English and other languages.

    ## Once again, SUPPLY and DEMAND !!

    * Homeopathy has been proved to be very effective in treatment of illness in animals and even plants.
    ## NOT in humans?? Less effective in humans ??

    * In our view, Homeopathy simply balances the mind & body and acts as a deep seated catalyst to help the body heal itself, naturally and gently.

    ## Where is the evidence for such a claim?? What is there to “BALANCE” between mind and body? Body is a physical object while mind is not.

    *We recommend that diagnosis of illness be done too, through lab reports and doctors. In the case of new patients using Homeopathy, please note that homeopathy is usually tried by a patient only after other methods of healing have failed to help.

    ## So the homeopaths depend on the medical doctors and laboratories for their diagnosis? (Just like the Astrologers depend on Astronomers for their data !!) Don’t they have their own methods? If everybody go to HPs for treatment there won’t be doctors or laboratories available for the HPs for their diagnostic needs. What then??

  6. Fran Diaz Says:

    Basically we have to use all systems of Medicine that will help cure or alleviate pain. All Medical systems must work together for the common good of all the citizens of a country. In medicine, ideally we have to leave aside economics, profit motive and concentrate on saving lives.
    To say “Supply & Demand” is the reason why Homeopathy is popular is correct. It is because of the efficacy of Homeopathy that there is a Demand.

    Here is new evidence that proves Homeopathy dilutions have effect :

    New Scientific Experiment Proves Homeopathic Dilutions Have Effect
    Posted on January 5, 2010 by homeopathyresource
    Scientists replicating earlier experiments but using modern scientific methodologies has confirmed that homeopathic potentized dilutions are active. The study was published recently and is entitled: Inhibition of CD203c membrane up-regulation in human basophils by high dilutions of histamine: a controlled replication study.
    Results
    Membrane up-regulation of CD203c, which in these experimental conditions proved to be a more consistent activation marker than CD63, was significantly inhibited in samples treated with histamine at the dilutions of 2C (P = 0.001), 12C (P = 0.047), 14C (P = 0.003), 15C (P = 0.036) and 16C (P = 0.009). Control water dilutions/succussions did not show any significant effect.
    Conclusion
    Using a strictly standardized flow cytometry protocol and a new dilution/succussion procedure, we have shown that low and high dilutions of histamine inhibit CD203c up-regulation in anti-IgE stimulated basophils.
    The online paper also describes the history of this type of experiment starting with a scientist named Benveniste and how modern methods have now shown indisputably that homeopathic high dilutions that are potentized have effect and that this experiment can be replicated successfully.

  7. Fran Diaz Says:

    Also, the connection between the human Mind & the human Body is now well established. It is now acknowledged by Science that the human Mind can cause bodily disease through a continued sense of stress, anxiety, sleeplessness, anger, etc. Vice-versa, human well being and positive emotions such as joy, laughter, security, wishing oneself & others well, etc. will ensure good health with a good immune system.

  8. Joe De Livera Says:

    Someone alerted me to the many responses that had been made on my response to my Post on this Website entitled “The Cure for Dengue” and I would like to take this opportunity of recording the case of the CURE of Robert Ray which may open the eyes of those who do not believe that Homeopathy can cure ailments which medicine cannot.

    This is the case record of an outstanding cure that resulted in my treating a patient for Gynecomastia or Male Breasts which in the case of Robert Ray were at ‘B’ Cup size which were caused, according to him, by the use of many drugs from 2002 to 2010 to treat the after effects of 3 strokes which left him hobbling with a stick for 8 years. He responded to my “Joepathy” in a few weeks when an improvement was noticed by him when his Gynecomastia reduced perceptibly. This gradual improvement continued up to a few weeks ago when he surprised me by stating that he was CURED of the after effects of his multiple strokes and that he was again gainfully occupied as a Computer Analyst in a firm in St Louis where he commutes weekly from Seattle.

    To those of you who may like to read the account of his amazing CURE from a stroke within 2 years, I have listed them on the links below:

    http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/228108/

    http://www.joedelivera.com/?s=robert+ray

    It is my hope that anyone who reads these posts takes Arnica 30c in the Wet dose as I have done since 1996 just once nightly, will enjoy the same state of health as me. I can confidently state that I owe my wellness at my advanced age of 83 to Arnica and it is my hope that those who may follow my example will record their own response to this amazing Homeopathic remedy which has cured Robert and many thousands of patients throughout the world who have followed my progress on the Web.

    For the record I shall detail the method that I have perfected to make the Wet dose of Arnica 30c:

    The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

    Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
    Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
    Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
    Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
    Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

    If anyone who reads this post wishes to consult me for any ailment he may do so free of charge, on my website:

    http://www.joedelivera.com

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