18 Responses to “STOP STEREOTYPING AND BREAKING STRONG RELATIONSHIPS AMONG THE COMMUNITIES”

1. Lorenzo Says:
   February 5th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

   “For Muslims, Sinhalese and Tamils are brothers and sisters and what is the reason or purpose on earth for Muslims to fight against their brothers and sisters?”

   Oh yes! Look at Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, Egypt, Somalia, Sudan, etc, etc. Muslims KILL their brothers and sisters!! Rizana was a Muslim and she was beheaded by her Muslim brother in Saudi!!

   “Islam does permit killing, injuring or hurting anyone unjustly and further it does not provide justification to any aggression which is committed or intended to be committed in the name of any labels or isms.”

   THANK YOU VERY MUCH. At last you admit. The ONLY true statement.

   I’m serious. Please read the paragraph

   “No war against Brothers

   The word ‘Jihad’ derived from Arabic Jahadun means ‘struggle’. It does not indicate to give a meaning of fighting or holy war. The concept of holy war is alien to Islam and nowhere in the Quran or Hadees is the concept found. The Prophet (PBUH) said “your first ‘jihad’ is a struggle against your desire and evil thoughts.” This struggle could be against injustice and struggling against injustice is an accepted norm by mankind and even by the international conventions. Islam does permit killing, injuring or hurting anyone unjustly and further it does not provide justification to any aggression which is committed or intended to be committed in the name of any labels or isms.”

   Praise be to Allah (PBUH) for helping the believers tell the truth for once for a change. It is not an accident but the direction by the Mercyful G~d.

   I too worship Allah (PBUH) (called in a slighly different name in my religion. The problem is not Allah (PBUH) but the violent Arabic religion.)

2. Sunil Vijayapala Says:
   February 5th, 2013 at 5:45 pm

   Sk pl answer my question what provoked muslims to burn down nalanda? you cunningly avoid unpalatable questions pl answer or we shall call you a wahaabi in sheeps cover lorenzo i doubt nanda is dham nanda possess female genitalia which i excite time to time my friend editor has a proper screening process in place no one can creep in unless they use a different ip address pl also i need your support and others to kill this ungulates’ language english before it kill sinhala and tamil the indian fool has swallowed the bate its very clear in bollywood pl decapitalise english at least that will hurt the anglo we have to fight on all fronts wahaabis tigers and anglos

3. Nanda Says:
   February 5th, 2013 at 8:43 pm

   sunil ayya please don’t say bad things. whether I am female or male I like both you and lorezo (malli or ayya).
   difficult ot undestand when writing only in simle letters without comas fulstops sinhala also have full stops comas.

4. Nalliah Thayabharan Says:
   February 5th, 2013 at 10:20 pm

   The Qur’an contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
   The verses of violence in the Qur’an are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Qur’an.
   Most of today’s Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret Qur’an’s many calls to violence according to what their own moral preconceptions find justifiable. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.
   Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Warlord Muhammad’s own martial legacy – and that of his companions – along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Qur’an have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.

5. Nalliah Thayabharan Says:
   February 5th, 2013 at 10:26 pm

   Where Islam is dominant as in the Middle East and Pakistan religious minorities suffer brutal persecution with little resistance. Where Islam is in the minority as in Thailand, the Philippines and Europe there is the threat of violence if Muslim demands are not met. Either situation seems to provide a justification for religious terrorism, which is persistent and endemic to Islamic fundamentalism.
   The reasons are obvious and begin with the Qur’an. Few verses of Islam’s most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier “Meccan” verses which are obviously abrogated by later ones. This is why Muslim apologists speak of the “risks” of trying to interpret the Qur’an without their “assistance” – even while claiming that it is a perfect book.
   Far from being mere history or theological construct, the violent verses of the Qur’an have played a key role in very real massacre and genocide. This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni’s bloody conquest. Both he and the later Tamerlane (Islam’s Genghis Khan) slaughtered an untold number merely for defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today’s Turkey. Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran. So ingrained is violence in the religion that Islam has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.
   Warlord Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered captives. He actually inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not. Warlord Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered.
   It is important to emphasize that, for the most part, Muslim armies waged aggressive campaigns, and the religion’s most dramatic military conquests were made by the actual companions of Warlord Muhammad in the decades following his death. The early Islamic principle of warfare was that the civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves. Although modern apologists often claim that Muslims are only supposed to attack in self-defense, this is an oxymoron that is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Islamic historians and others that go back to the time of Warlord Muhammad.

6. rohanana Says:
   February 6th, 2013 at 12:21 am

   Sawmeer, I appreciate what you are saying but remember that there are reasons most of the time to start things like this. As the saying goes “No smoke without a fire”. No one needs to look too far, just go to Gampola, Bibile Road and see for yourself what the Muslims surprisingly relegious leaders have done. That is not what a decent RELIGION does. How long people can tolerate these injustices. There is always a limit to the tolerance otherwise they will be taken as weak and will walk all over you. If Muslims are really honest about having peace with others, first they have to respect other religions and people. Think how they will react if Buddhists, Christians or Hindus do that to them. That is where things have to start. People like you must campaign and force these Muslims to behave and not to antagonise others. Get them to demolish that Mosque immediately. Remember “What goes around comes around”. So people like you should start that soon and educate these truoble makers in your religion.

7. Leela Says:
   February 6th, 2013 at 6:52 am

   I agree with the writer that Koran 2:256 says ‘not force anyone to become Muslim ….’ I am sure he also knows that’s the only verse in Koran that command Muslims not to force their religion on others. As Nalliah says above there are over 100 verses that order Muslims to fight nonbelievers for the sake of Islam. And Muslims are doing it all over the world.

   Once you are in to Islam there is no way out. Today, Christians can change their religion. Jews can. Hindus can. Buddhists can. But death is the penalty for apostasy in Islam. Koran 4:89 says, “They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.”

   During these later years of Muhammad, when his sworn enemy Abu Sufyan went to seek peace with him, Abu was ordered to embrace Islam. Did Muhammad abide by Koran 2:256 s this writer says. No. In Hadeeth, Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 814 says as Muhammad said to Abu Sufyan, “Submit and testify that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the apostle of Allah before you lose your head”. And he did.

   Even though the residents and leaders of Mecca detested Muhammad and had resisted his preaching from the beginning, entire city followed Abu Sufyan. Meccans who would not change their religion were forcibly expelled from the city following that last Haj (Koran 9:5). The Christians and Jews living in Arabia at the time suffered the same fate on Muhammad’s deathbed order. Sahih Muslim 19:4366 says, they were given the choice of either accepting Islam or being forced off their land.

   Muslims cannot cover most verses of Koran and Hadeeth and show us only some verses as the word of their God and tell us their ‘religion’ is benign. They must frankly discuss those violent verses and justify them or reject them openly.
   Leela

8. Voice123 Says:
   February 6th, 2013 at 8:33 am

   We will NEVER get a straightforward answer from these people because even to question them leads to the accusation that we are RACISTS. How can you trust Muslims when they act in this manner. Sawmeer, just answer the questions STRAIGHT please. We will NOT accept this racism diversion. Its just rubbish. STRAIGHT answers please.

9. sawmeer Says:
   February 7th, 2013 at 4:22 am

   Apostasy in Islam.
   As we clearly see from the Noble Verses above, apostates are no longer to be killed in Islam. I am not here promoting apostates, but there is no reason to kill someone who doesn’t deserve to be killed. Certainly if the apostate is hostile toward the Muslims and joins the enemy in a war against them, or tries to corrupt the Muslims in the Muslim lands by trying to convert them to his/her new deviant religion, then the matter becomes different. But if a Westerner today for instance embraces Islam for a while and then changes his position due to the overwhelming false anti-Islamic media, then certainly killing that person would be a grave sin and a big mistake.

   The following verse from Surah Taubah is very often quoted by critics of Islam, to show that Islam promotes violence, bloodshed and brutality: “Kill the mushriqeen (pagans, polytheists, kuffar) where ever you find them.”
   [Al-Qur’an 9:5]

   Context of verse is during battlefield

   Critics of Islam actually quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriqs (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriqs of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriqs of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them. Verse 5 of Surah Taubah says:

   “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is oft-forgiving, Most merciful.”
   [Al-Qur’an 9:5]

   This verse is quoted during a battle.

   Example of war between America and Vietnam

   We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them”. Today if I say that the American President said, “Wherever you find Vietnamese, kill them” without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war.

   Verse 9:5 quoted to boost morale of Muslims during battle

   Similarly in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 the Qur’an says, “Kill the Mushriqs where ever you find them”, during a battle to boost the morale of the Muslim soldiers. What the Qur’an is telling Muslim soldiers is, don’t be afraid during battle; wherever you find the enemies kill them.

   Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer

   Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer to the allegation that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed. It says:

   “If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum,grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.”
   [Al-Qur’an 9:6]

   The Qur’an not only says that a Mushriq seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security?

   This is exactly what Allah (swt) says in the Glorious Qur’an to promote peace in the world.

   jumps from verse 5 to verse 7

   The staunchest critics of Islam in India. He quotes the same verse, Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 in his book ‘The World of Fatwahs’, on page 572. After quoting verse 5 he jumps to verse 7 of Surah Taubah. Any sensible person will realise that he has skipped verse 6.

10. sawmeer Says:
    February 7th, 2013 at 4:25 am

    Please send your all question most welcome to discuse because its difficult to answer each every question we have deal one by one.

    sawmeer@gamil.com

11. Nanda Says:
    February 7th, 2013 at 7:36 am

    Leela,
    You said “I agree with the writer that Koran 2:256 says ‘not force anyone to become Muslim ….’ I am sure he also knows that’s the only verse in Koran that command Muslims not to force their religion on others.”

    You have to take it in the correct context. It is simply saying, “do not take prisoners , just kill them”.

    Swameer,
    Whatever the context if one says “Wherever you find Vietnamese, kill them” , how on this earth or heaven can this murderer(pbuh) be mecriful and a riligious head ? Even in war Americans did not kill every Vietnamese whenever they find. They wer much much more merciful than Mohamed the barbarian (pbhu).

12. Nanda Says:
    February 7th, 2013 at 7:43 am

    Nalliah or Leela,
    How did Mohamud die in the end ?
    Can one of you disclose it. Old age or like Prabahkaran(pbhu).

13. sawmeer Says:
    February 8th, 2013 at 1:45 am

    Ananda where every you find you kill him its on the battle field, in the battle field you will find only army (enemy) not innocent people because they were fight in desert open place. If you read the hadith of prophet he command his followers not to killed any innocent human including, women, children, old people even not to destroy the use full trees and animal.

14. Insula Says:
    February 8th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Nanda Says:
    February 7th, 2013 at 7:43 am
    Nalliah or Leela,
    How did Mohamud die in the end ?
    Can one of you disclose it. Old age or like Prabahkaran(pbhu).

    *******
    COMMENT: Last 3 months

    In March 632, Muhammad made his last pilgrimage to Mecca. On a hillside he spoke to tens of thousands of his followers and reviewed the main points of Islam. He reminded that all Muslims are brothers and sisters, whatever the tribe or race. He concluded by asking the crowd ” Have I delivered the message” ? and when the Muslims roared their approval, Muhammad said, “Oh God, bear witness.”

    Three months after his last pilgrimage, Muhammad suffered a terrible fever and headache and died, possibly of pneumonia, with his head in Aisha’s lap in her hut in Medina on June 8, 632. Before dying, he insisted several times that only his old friend Abu Bakr lead the prayer services. His last words were. ” Lord grant me pardon and join me to the companionship in Paradise.” He was sixty two.

    Reference: Pages 35-36, Prophets and Princes, Mark Weston

15. Voice123 Says:
    February 9th, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    “…he command his followers not to killed any innocent human …”

    It seems only THE Prophet (PBUH) decides who is innocent and who is guilty, who lives and who dies.

16. MuhammadFS Says:
    February 10th, 2013 at 12:27 am

    Racists can put on the fitting cap.

    Muslims and Sinhalese in Srilanka only want to live in peace. We didn’t ask for Sharia or homelands.

    Don’t be fooled by Tamil Tigers pretending to be ultra Sinhala extremists. Ask them about the Srilanka national anthem and you will see their tiger stripes.

17. Sunil Vijayapala Says:
    February 10th, 2013 at 2:28 am

    nanda – point taken and thx for decapitating english – well i will have commas and fullstops. bloody lazy man i am.

18. Insula Says:
    February 11th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    MuhammadFS Says:
    February 10th, 2013 at 12:27 am
    Racists can put on the fitting cap.

    Muslims and Sinhalese in Srilanka only want to live in peace. We didn’t ask for Sharia or homelands.

    Don’t be fooled by Tamil Tigers pretending to be ultra Sinhala extremists. Ask them about the Srilanka national anthem and you will see their tiger stripes.
    **********

    COMMENT: So you are claiming that the Sinhalese Extremists on this board are actually Tamil terrorists out to discredit the Sihalese Buddhists? Interesting. Or is it Real Sinhales e extremists?

    Are they also against India as well?

    Again, do you have the data on stupor of this hypothesis?

    Need to apply the Scientific Method in support of your Hypotheses.

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