52 Responses to “Why did Buddhism disappear from South Asia? Brahmin atrocities that destroyed Buddhism in the Subcontinent”

1. Lorenzo Says:
   January 26th, 2013 at 5:46 am

   Brahminism did destroy Buddhism in India.

   I agree.

   But in MANY other countries it was destroyed by BARBARIC Islamic invaders.

   e.g. Bangladesh (they are still doing it!!!)
   e.g. Pakistan region
   e.g. Afghanistan (barbarians are still doing it)
   e.g. Maldives (barbarians are still doing it)
   e.g. Malaysia
   e.g. Indonesia
   e.g. Colombo, Ampara, Digawapi, Trincomalee, Beruwala, Gampola, Puttlam, etc. (no Brahmins there).

2. Sunil Vijayapala Says:
   January 26th, 2013 at 6:12 am

   true to a certain extent however the barbaric ottaman empire moghuls did the real damage. one muslim leader has declared after destroying the nalanda uni and sarnath etc. which burnt 6 months ‘ nothing is left of buddhism in india now’ blaming the hypocritical hindus for the annihilation is totally unacceptable – annihilation was carried by allah hullal mahhalla halaala barbaric muslims as lorenzo rightly points out. systematic killing of buddhism was done by brahmins and i doubt there are indian scholars who can right scholarly papers on buddhism. we need to get rid of barbaric wahaabis in sri lanka beginning from the east before something major happens in sl – the corrupt muslims are destroying our heladeepa – as i suggested before 2 children per family should be implemented by the gosl before these rats imbalance the current population statistics.
   wonder what our idiots are doing about the buddha bar – we should burnt it down to the ground – probably govt henchmen (pradeshiya saba) men are behind this atrocity.

3. Nanda Says:
   January 26th, 2013 at 6:25 am

   Sunil Ayya,
   Buddha bar in Sri Lanka ?
   Your buddy Rajapakse should be expelled to Saudi for beheading if he allows such thing to happen.

   “Colombo, Ampara, Digawapi, Trincomalee, Beruwala, Gampola, Puttlam, etc. (no Brahmins there)”
   Lorenzo,

   How about Brahmins from Jaffna, your home town ? I thought they conquered Wellawatte long time ago.
   However the Muslim threat is now bigger than Brhamin threat , I agree.

4. Nanda Says:
   January 26th, 2013 at 6:31 am

   I don’t believe there is a Buddha bar in SriLanka. This is only a rumour. Impossible.

5. Fran Diaz Says:
   January 26th, 2013 at 10:59 am

   It is mainly the Caste system tied to the Hindu religion, rejected by the Buddha as he said that “a person is high born or low born according actions only” .
   Buddhism is called ‘Purified Hinduism’ as it is akin to Raj Yoga, the highest of all Yogas in Hinduism.

   The Caste System may have suited ancient India, but now is the time to go to the much loved Four Great Yogas which have no Caste System attached to them.

   Some Buddhist SE countries, having huge poor populations turned to Communism for economic answers, and were bombed out by the west in the Cold War times. Also, most of the SE countries were Colonised. Hence the disappearance of Buddhism from large parts of those countries. Indonesia, a mostly Buddhist country turned to Islam due to fear of volcanic eruptions. Uneducated Buddhists there were told the eruptions happened because they were not Muslims, and hence converted to Islam.

   Sinhela People : Beware of international traps.

6. Senevirath Says:
   January 26th, 2013 at 4:24 pm

   EarlyChristiansand Hindus destroyed other Religions. It is history
   From the begining of Islam they have beign doing it up to now. It is their Religion which encourage destruction–JIHAD-

   When will they be civilised like others

7. herman Says:
   January 26th, 2013 at 6:25 pm

   sawmeer khan,

   Unfortunately and Understandbly you have left out the Muslim Barbarians led by Bakhtiyar Khalji in 1193 that destroyed Nalanda University. NU was so vast that it was reported to have had burned for three months.

   Both, the Muslim Barbarians and Brahmin Barbarians were mainly responsible for trying to destroy Buddhism in India and elsewhere!

8. Nalliah Thayabharan Says:
   January 26th, 2013 at 8:11 pm

   Siddhārtha Gautama Buddha’s period saw not only urbanisation, but also the beginnings of centralised states.The successful expansion of Buddhism depended on the growing economy of the time, together with increased centralized political organization capable of change. Buddhism had seen a steady growth from its beginnings to its endorsement as state religion of the Maurya Empire under Ashoka Maurya (304BCE–232 BCE). It continued to flourish another 4 centuries and spread even beyond the Indian subcontinent to Central Asia and beyond to China.

   Ashoka Maurya banned Vedic sacrifices as contrary to Buddhist benevolence, Buddhism began its spread outside of its Magadha homeland. The succeeding Shungas reinstated the sacrifices. They also built the large Sanchi stupa next to a Shunga capital. The overall trend of Buddhism’s spread across India and state support by various regional regimes continued.The consolidation of monastic organization made Buddhism the center of religious and intellectual life in India. Pushyamitra the first ruler of the Sunga Dynasty built great Buddhist topes at Sanchi in 188 BCE. The succeeding Kanva Dynasty had four Buddhist Kanva Kings.

   The decline of Buddhism in India is the result of the hostility of the Brahmans. The gradual expansion in the scope and authority of caste regulations shifted political and economic power to the local arena, reversing the trend of centralization.The caste system gradually expanded into secular life as a regulative code of social and economic transactions. In ancient times, the four varnas were primarily a categorization scheme and the Vedas did contain prohibitions regarding intermarriage. There were, however, large numbers of castes probably originally tribal lineage groups.

   Pusyamitra Sunga (185 BCE to 151 BCE) was hostile to Buddhism, he burned Sūtras, Buddhists shrines and massacred monks. The Hindu Saivite ruler Shashanka of Gauda (590–626) destroyed the Buddhist images and Bo Tree, under which Siddhartha Gautama is said to have achieved enlightenment. But a steady decline of Buddhism in India set in during the later Gupta era and under the Pala Empire. Chinese monks traveling through the region between the 5th and 8th centuries CE, such as Faxian, Xuanzang, Yijing, Huisheng, and Song Yun, began to speak of a decline of the Buddhist sangha, especially in the wake of the White Hun invasion. By that time, Buddhism had become especially vulnerable to hostile rulers because it lacked strong roots in society as most of its adherents were ascetic communities.

   In 711 Muhammad bin Qasim conquered the Sindh, bringing Indian societies into contact with Islam, succeeding partly because Dahir was an unpopular Hindu king that ruled over a Buddhist majority and that Chach of Alor and his kin were regarded as usurpers of the earlier Buddhist Rai Dynasty – a view questioned by those who note the diffuse and blurred nature of Hindu and Buddhist practices in the region, especially that of the royalty to be patrons of both and those who believe that Chach himself may have been a Buddhist. The forces of Muhammad bin Qasim defeated Raja Dahir in alliance with the Jats and other regional governors.

   Many instances of conversion of stupas to mosques such as at Nerun as well as the incorporation of the religious elite into the ruling administration such as the allocation of 3% of the government revenue was allocated to the Brahmins. As a whole, the non-Muslim populations of conquered territories were treated as People of the Book and granted the freedom to practice their respective faiths in return for payment of the poll tax (jizya). They were then excused from military service or payment of the tax paid by Muslim subjects – Zakat. The jizya enforced was a graded tax, being heaviest on the elite and lightest on the poor.

   The Gupta Empire period was a time of great development of Hindu culture but even then, in the Ganges Plain, half of the population supported Buddhism and the five precepts were widely observed. The Hindu rulers and wealthy laity gave lavish material support to Buddhist monasteries. After the Guptas, the Shaivite kings of Gujarat (as well as Nepal and Kashmir) also patronized Buddhist monasteries, building a great center of Buddhist learning at Valabhi. The Buddhist emperor Harsha and the later Buddhist Pala dynasty (8th to11th Centuries ) were great patrons of Buddhism but it had already begun to lose its political and social base.

   With the surge of Hindu philosophers like Adi Shankara(788 – 820), along with Madhvacharya and Ramanuja, three leaders in the revival of Hindu philosophy, Buddhism started to fade out rapidly from the landscape of India.

   By the 10th century Mahmud of Ghazni defeated the Hindu-Shahis, effectively removing Hindu influence and ending Buddhist self-governance across Central Asia, as well as the Punjab region. He demolished both stupas and temples during his numerous campaigns across North-Western India, but left those within his domains and Afghanistan alone. Hindu and Buddhist statues, shrines and temples were looted and destroyed by Mahmud of Ghazni and many Buddhists had to take refuge in Tibet.

   Decline continued after the fall of the Pala dynasty in the 12th century and the gradual Muslim conquest in the Indian subcontinent. The Buddhism of Magadha was finally swept away by the Islamic invasion under one of Qutb-ud-Din’s generals Muhammad Bin Bakhtiar Khilji, during which many of the Viharas and the famed universities of Nalanda and Vikramshila were destroyed, and thousands of Buddhist monks were massacred in 12th century.

   Muhammad attacked the north-western regions of the Indian subcontinent many times. Gujarat later fell to Muhammad of Ghor’s armies in 1197. Muhammad of Ghor’s army was too developed for the traditional Indian army of that time to resist.

   In 1197 the capital, Bihar, was seized by a small party of two hundred horsemen, who rushed the postern gate, and sacked the town. Further, the slaughter of the “shaven-headed Brahmans,” as the Muslim chronicler calls the Buddhist monks, “was so complete that when the victor searched for a competent person to explain the contents of the library not a soul was alive.

   A similar fate befell upon the other Buddhist institutions, against which the combined intolerance and rapacity of the invaders was directed. The monasteries were sacked and the monks were slain, many of the temples were ruthlessly destroyed or desecrated, and countless idols were broken and trodden under their foot. Those monks who escaped the sword fled to Nepal, Tibet, and South India to avoid the consequences of war and Buddhism was finally destroyed and those areas then came under these Muslim rulers.

   Although the Mithila rulers were Shaivite Hindus, they continued the Pala patronage of Buddhism and offered strong resistance against the Ghurids. They stopped, for example, an attempted drive to take Tibet in 1206. The Sena king (a Hindu) installed defensive garrisons at Odantapuri and Vikramashila Monasteries, which were imposing walled citadels directly on the Ghurids’ line of advance.

   Nalanda escaped the fate of Odantapuri and Vikramshila monasteries. When the Tibetan translator, Chag Lotsawa Dharmasvamin (Chag Lo-tsa-ba, 1197 – 1264), visited northern India in 1235, he found Nalanda damaged, looted, and largely deserted, but still standing and functioning with 70 students.
   A Tibetan monk called Dharmaswamin visited Nalanda in 1235, nearly 40 years after its sack, and found a small class still conducted in the ruins by a 90 old monk, Rahul Sribhadra. Weak and old, the teacher was kept fed and alive by a local Brahmin, Jayadeva. Warned of a roving band of 300 Turks, the class dispersed, with Dharmaswamin carrying his nonagenarian teacher on his back into hiding. Only the two of them came back, and after the last lesson (it was Sanskrit grammar) Rahul Sribhadra told his Tibetan student that he had taught him all he knew and in spite of his entreaties asked him to go home. Packing a raggedy bundle of surviving manuscripts under his robe, Dharmaswamin left the old monk sitting calmly amidst the ruins. And both he and the Dharma of Sakyamuni made their exit from India.

   Many Buddhist monks fled Bihar and parts of northern Bengal, seeking asylum in monastic universities and centres in modern-day Orissa, southern Bangladesh, Arakan on the western coast of Burma, southern Burma, and northern Thailand. The majority, however, together with numerous Buddhist lay followers, went to the Kathmandu Valley of Nepal, bringing with them many manuscripts from the vast monastic libraries that had been destroyed.

   Buddhism was in a strong position in Kathmandu at the time. The Hindu kings of the Thakuri Dynasties (750 – 1200) had supported the Buddhist monasteries, and there were several monastic universities. Since the end of the tenth century, numerous Tibetan translators had been visiting these centres on their way to India, and Nepalese masters from them had been instrumental in the revival of Buddhism in central and western Tibet. The early Hindu rulers of the Malla Period (1200 – 1768) continued the policies of their Thakuri predecessors.

   The Musalman invaders sacked the Buddhist Universities of Nalanda, Vikramshila, Jagaddala, Odantapuri to name only a few. They raised to the ground Buddhist monasteries with which the country was studded. The monks fled away in thousands to Nepal, Tibet and other places outside India. A very large number were killed outright by the Muslim commanders. How the Buddhist priesthood perished by the sword of the Muslim invaders has been recorded by the Muslim historians themselves.

   In 1215, Genghis Khan conquered Afghanistan and devastated the Muslim world. In 1227, after his death, his conquest was divided. Chagatai then established the Chagatai Khanate, where his son Arghun made Buddhism the state religion. At the same time, he came down harshly on Islam and demolished mosques to build many stupas. He was succeeded by his brother, and then his son Ghazan who converted to Islam and in 1295 changed the state religion. After his reign, and the splitting of the Chagatai Khanate, little mention of Buddhism or the stupas built by the Mongols can be found in Afghanistan and Central Asia.

   Timur was a 14th-century warlord of Turco-Mongol descent conqueror of much of Western and central Asia, and founder of the Timurid Empire destroyed Buddhist establishments and raided areas in which Buddhism had flourished.

   In Tamilnadu and Kerala, Buddhism survived until 15th to 16th century, as witnessed by the manuscript of the Manjusrimulakalpa. At Nagapattinam, in Tamil Nadu, Buddhist icons were cast and inscribed until this time, and the ruins of the Chudamani Vihara stood until they were destroyed by the Jesuits in 1867.

9. Nalliah Thayabharan Says:
   January 26th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

   PLEASE WATCH THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIs7_tsIBTs

10. Nalliah Thayabharan Says:
    January 26th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    Muslims wiped out
    complete civilisation in Egypt
    Parsees from Persia
    Buddhists from Afghanistan & Maldives
    Sikhs from Lahore
    Sindhis from Sindh
    Kashmiri pandits from Kashmir
    Hindus & Buddhists in Bangladesh.
    Christians and Hindus from several Islands of Indonesia

    But the real enemies to defeat are the disturbing emotions and attitudes that lie hidden in the mind. Buddhism’s “Jihad” is purely an internal spiritual war against the inner foes. Siddhārtha Gautama Buddha was born into the warrior caste and often used military imagery to describe the spiritual journey. Siddhārtha Gautama Buddha was the Triumphant One, who defeated the demonic forces of unawareness, distorted views, disturbing emotions, and impulsive karmic behavior.

11. Voice123 Says:
    January 26th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    Fran Das, the problem in that not all Brahmins are practising the 4 yogas or higher forms of Hinduism. Brahmins led by the anti-Sri Lanka PM, Indira Gandhi did not succeed in controlling India’s population explosion despite forced steralizations, etc. India’s Brahmins are feathering their nests in the West. I have lately heard a plausible theory that Brahmins, with the help of allies in the West, want to engineer a massive “population reduction” in India using a mix of ethnic warfare (balkanization), biological warfare and starvation.

12. Fran Diaz Says:
    January 27th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    Voice 123,

    I am not referring to any Brahmins at all. I am referring to Hindu religion people, wherever they are. All Hindu people ought to attempt to practice the 4 Yogas, not so much idol worship & chanting.

    The same is true for Buddhists. An attempt should be made to follow the Core Teachings of the Buddha in daily life. Same is true for Christians/Catholics, Islamists too.

    —–

    States (including Sri Lanka) should follow the best way to provide security, jobs, good education, basic needs etc. for their People, in the most ethical and morally sound ways possible. This has nothing to do with any religion, though Buddhism addresses such matters too (per King Asoka). State & Religion are best kept somewhat apart. Or else outside elements will expect Buddhist Sri Lankans to commit suicide ad die by generously donating the country to them a la Siri Sangabo ! We expect minorities to live safely in good health & happiness in Sri Lanka in a non-aggressive manner. Take overs will not be tolerated.

13. Sunil Vijayapala Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 4:25 am

    Nanda nangie buddha bar is true i don’t write anything based on rumour i saw on tv some monks protest this is mahinda chinthama at its best iam surprised that some forum members don’t get it still after all this crap illegal roads sand mining air ports a 20000 sq ft mansion etc. the buddha bar could be a could be a anglo french ungulate conspiracy to begin an international agitation if mahinda protests in fact this bar should be burnt down to the ground and the guys approved should be skinned at gallface green probably culprits are pradeshiya saba ungulates by the way i met jayantha liyanage who is on an uphill battle to fight these corrupt politicians he needs all the help he can get funny thing the anglo saxons who have embraced buddhism are silent on the buddha bar issue

14. Fran Diaz Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 4:57 am

    “Buddha Bars”, if they do exist, ought to be banned. The Greedy anywhere will exploit anything to make MONEY & gain POWER. I am not against making money in an ethical manner. For a start, people ought to question their MPs on this. BB’s, if they do exist in Sri Lanka, are done to make the Prez & GoSL unpopular, isn’t it ? Removal ought to be done in a legal manner. No violence, please.

    Sinhela People: Be aware of international traps. Safeguard your country.

15. sawmeer Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Decline and Fall of Buddhism
    by
    Dr. K. Jamanadas
    Chapter 2

    As Dr. Ambedkar has explained, the causes of fall and decline are different. Muslim invasion was the cause of fall of Buddhism, not only in India, but also all over the world. Before Islam, countries like Bactria, Parthia, Afghanistan, Gandhar and Chinese Turkasthan, as well as whole of Asia were Buddhists. It had also spread to Europe and the Celts in Britain were Buddhists, according to Donald A. Mackenzie. [W&S, vol.3, p.230]

    As The reasons why Buddhism was destroyed but Brahmanism survived the massacre by Muslims must be understood. There are three reasons enumerated by Ambedkar,

    (1) support of State to Brahmanism,

    (2) Buddhist Bhikkus, once perished had be created from scratch by rigorous training, while Brahmin priests are ready made by birth and

    (3) that Buddhist lay worshipers were driven to Islam by Brahmanic persecution. [W&S, vol.3, p.230] Prof. Surendra Nath Sen very rightly observed, during the Indian History Congress held at Allahabad in 1938, that there were no satisfactory answers as yet to two problems concerning medieval history of India, one connected with origins of Rajputs and the other to the distribution of Muslim population in India. [W&S, vol.3, p.236]

    The common belief that Islam followed the route of conquest forcing its faith over the subjugated people, Prof. Sen said, cannot explain Muslim conversion in eastern Bengal having no racial affinity with the conquerors, though it might explain conversions in western regions like Afganisthan and Punjab, which had some racial affinity since Kushana times. So the reasons are to be found elsewhere. That the reasons were persecution by Brahmins of the converted masses, who were predominantly Buddhists. Ambedkar thinks, Sen’s following passage is very significant:
    “It cannot be an accident that the Punjab, Kashmir, the district around Behar Sharif, North-East Bengal where Muslims now predominate, were all strong Buddhist centres in pre-Muslim days. It will not be fair to suggest that the Buddhists succumbed more easily to political temptations than the Hindus and change of religion was due to the prospects of the improvement of their political status.” [W&S, vol.3, p.236]
    That brings us to the real cause of the fall of Buddhism in India was persecution of the Buddhists, which went on for centuries causing gradual decline, and ultimately lead to its fall. Ambedkar gives examples of many kings persecuting Buddhists and concludes that the fall of Buddhism was due to the Buddhists becoming Muslims for escaping the tyranny of Brahmanism. “If it has been a disaster, it is a disaster for which Brahmanism must thank itself.” [W&S, vol.3, p.238]

    Before coming to the effects of fall of Buddhism, which is our main subject, we have briefly discussed the various causes that led to this tragedy which befell on this country. As exclaimed by L. M. Joshi, this tragedy is mostly ignored or distorted by the elite of this land for selfish motives. [L.M.Joshi:1977:xvii] Here we like to discuss the techniques used by Brahmanism.

    Violent Methods of Brahmanic Conquest

    One of the methods of spread of Brahmanism was by slow cultural Invasion. Question some times is asked why they did not resort to armed struggle. As a matter of fact, when the situation permitted, they even did that. The cultural invasion was the best means adopted by them, though armed aggressions were attempted throughout, right from the times of the Buddha. Even before Pushyamitra Shunga, Chanakya seems to have brought in Chandragupta Maurya on throne to annihilate Nanda kings. Unfortunately for Brahmins the coup backfired as Chandragupta became a Jaina and Ashoka became a Buddhist monk first and later upasaka. His images as a Bhikshu, were seen by Chinese traveler I-Tsing, and his rock edicts mention about his becoming a Buddhist. Major armed offensive was launched in times of Pushyamitra under guidance of Patanjali. Still the masses accepted Kushanas rather than submit to Brahmana rule. Brahmanas had to bring in the Guptas, and under Samudragupta Brahmin supremacy prevailed. It was after Harshavardhana in seventh century A.D., that Brahmins got the real chance of perpetrating their supremacy. One of the means was by creating the Rajputs. Those were the means of armed struggle arranged by Brahmins.

    Conquest by peaceful means

    During this period they spread to Kerala. The evidence for study of their invasion on Buddhist social culture is more easily available in south India and specially Kerala, where Brahmin penetration was much later and more difficult than in North India. Here their method was more of Cultural Invasion. It is therefore, necessary to concentrate on South India and presume the same techniques must have been employed in the entire country, which requisite regional adjustments. Mr. Nair explains as follows:

    “Theoretically then we might ask why the Brahmins could not achieve a military conquest and achieve ethno- expansionism … The answer is the Brahmins in the initial stages of their cultural conquest had only an intense apostolic motivation unaccompanied by the resources to organize themselves into armed bands. Indeed it is much later history when they were finally successful in entrenching themselves as a religious oligarchy within the kingdom of a “Kshatriya” prince and goading him to undertake religious wars and expansion through “Aswamedhayagas”. [emphasis ours] Similarly the Nambudiri Brahmin in ancient Malabar could have only attempted a peaceful cultural conquest through astute ways and not through force as he was himself bereft of the means to compel the Nayars to follow his ways except that of persuasion through example and precept. [Nair:1959:10]

    [Dr. K. Jamanadas is a distinguished academic with research experience in several different fields. A retired surgeon by profession, (67), with an F.R.C.S. from Edinburgh, he is recognised as one of the best surgeons in India. In addiition, he is also a graduate of Nagpur University in Ancient Indian History, Culture and Archeology. He was member of Board of studies in History in Nagpur University for two terms of three years each, making substantial contributions to the knowledge of ancient Indian history. He is the author of several famous books, including the path-breaking “Tirupati Balaji was a Buddhist Shrine,” a translation of L.K.Malavi’s `Patana’ and several others. His voluminous publications have earned him the distinction of being one of the foremost Dalit historians ever.]

    (to be continued)

16. sawmeer Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Needless to say for whatever reasons, Buddhism did decline and disappeared in India.

    Historian S. R. Goyal has attributed the decline and disappearance of Buddhism from India to the hostility of the Brahmanas. An incident oft cited is the destruction of the Bo Tree and Buddhist images by Saivite King, Shashanka, persecution by Pusyamitra Sunga (185 BC to 151 BC) who detested the Law of the Buddha had set fire to the Sutras, destroyed Stupas, razed Samgharamas and massacred Bhikkus and even killed the deity of the Bodhi tree. There is also mention of the Huna onslaught on Taxila (in Pakistan), the persecution of Buddhist monks by Mihirkula.

    Incidentally, though Moghuls are accused of destroying Hindu temples, most of these temples were actually built on Buddhist shrine sites. Results of Moghul invasions were many too – Somapura Mahavihara (now in Bangladesh) was set ablaze. Odantapuri Mahavihara close to Nalanda was razed to the ground in 1199 CE after killing all the monks and Bodhgaya was attacked as well. Though there is evidence that even a century beyond the Muslim conquest Buddhism remained in places like Gaya till the end of the 14th century which disproves the notion that Muslim conquest was not singularly responsible for the decline of Buddhism in India.

    Thus the inability to gage a particular time period for the process of decline until Buddhism collapsed towards the end of the 12th century. Yet, the question remains if Jainism survived why Buddhism didn’t? The Bengal Puranas depict the Buddhists as being mocked and subject to verbal chiding.

    Yet persecutions may suppress but it does not kill a religion! So what really happened to Buddhism in India?

17. Ancient Sinhalaya Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Buddhism disappeared from Afghanistan, Pakisthan, Bangladesh, Maldives, Malaysia & Indonesia thanks to Muslims’ ‘baby machines’. Within a few hundred years they used this dirty trick to outnumber the natives. So the Buddhists had to face death or convert, ultimately making them Muslim countries. We can see this happening in modern day Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Thailand, Bangladesh. After all, ‘The Religion of Peace’ Quran says you should kill all nonbelievers.

    It is laughable Hakeem meets the President and complains about harassment faced by his folk. He should think he and his folk are very lucky as all these years the Muslims in Sri Lanka had a free reign to buy land at will, multiply in numbers, take over towns, build mosques in every town, get into every government and used and abused them to get everything they wanted.

    They swelled the numbers quietly while Sinhalese were giving their lives to safeguard their heritage. Now the ‘baby machines’ have swelled the numbers close to 2 million and they feel the time is right to push a bit more towards Islamisation of Sri Lanka by introducing halal. Unfortunately for them most Sinhalese and Tamils are getting fed up with them and feel they’d had enough with their selfish, uncaring me, me, me and my folks attitude.

    What the Muslims don’t understand is they managed to wrestle those countries from Buddhists during the pre-internet, pre-TV age. Today their dirty tricks get publicised all over the world within few minutes they are committed and they are facing stiff opposition from the Sri Lankan society. Looking at Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Pakisthan gives good examples what Islam can do to a country. If they have an iota of common sense, they should give up the idea of Islamisation of Sri Lanka and be grateful to the host country. Good first step will be to stop multiplying their numbers. Or they can leave these shores for pastures green in Pakisthan, Afganisthan, Bangladesh, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc. where you can have 100% halal, 100% sharia law without wasting time to implement them there, thereby giving you ample time to spend for securing your so called seven virgins waiting in so called heaven only you are foolish enough to believe. We wonder sometimes who is waiting in so called heaven for the burka-clad women when they leave this planet. Just remembered they don’t matter.

18. Nanda Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Ancient Sinhalaya ,
    Buddhism did not disappear from Afghanistan, Pakisthan, Bangladesh, Maldives, Malaysia & Indonesia thanks to Muslims’ ‘baby machines’. It dissapeared either because the “king” was too greedy or too weak. Muslim barbarians flooded Lanka with diry drug money coming from Afganistan during past 20 years. Saudis and other Arabs brainwashesd the greedy local Muslims so that they now think their origins are in Saudi and Allah has given them OK to operate the
    baby machines by pushing the nob unders the Gonibilla dress.
    Our king recently explained the reason for comulsory Halaal rule ( which you don’t have in any other country except Muslim Sharia states) that we the Buddhist Sri lanka cannot survive without it during his meeting with Bodu Bala Sena. I don’t know how he explained, that talks are not published yet.

19. Lorenzo Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    We must not forget the PRE-ISLAM religions of Arabia!!

    They were wiped out by Islam invaders too.

    e.g. Medina disbelievers

    I don’t think they will VOLUNTARILY stop multiplying. That will never happen. Mosssad has certain ways to keep things under control. We have to tap into their expertise.

    Before SL, Israel will turn into an Islam state at the rate of multiplying. But they have invented these “ways”. So they are very useful in SL too. Someone has to do it so the others can meditate in peace.

20. Lorenzo Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    We also have to look why Islam disappeared from Spain!!

    We can get MANY MANY clues from their success story. :))

21. Nanda Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    bohoma kanagaatui Sunil Ayya, I want to communicate so much with you but as my comments appear 2-3 days after, it is difficult. Things are changing rapidly.
    What I understand is “Buddha Bar” is not a phisical bar but some kind of music, songs created by Indians booruwas and they are “bar songs”. One of the hotels in Lankawa has used this as a brand.
    There is no doubt these things can happen because there is no honest “Hela-Busshit” politicians, including your ex-buddy.
    Some Bodu Bala Sena protested and your buddy summoned them and gave a lecture of “religious harmony”.

22. Muhandiram Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    * Murder per year 1200 (around)(95 % Sinhalese)
    * Abortion per day 800(99.8 % Non-Muslims)
    *Liqour consume 794 Million litres per year.(99.9 % Non-Muslims)

    Stop all those,automayically solve your problems.rather than complaining Muslims.

    all the racists are idiots.

23. Muhandiram Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    I want to ask a great question,that how did nepal Buddhists become Hindus?

24. Voice123 Says:
    January 29th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    Lorenzo says:
    “We can get MANY MANY clues from their success story. :))”

    – Lorenzo, are you talking about the 15 century Spanish Inquisition?

25. Lorenzo Says:
    January 29th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    No; I refer to the REAL reduction and REVERSAL of Islam growth in Spain.

26. sawmeer Says:
    January 29th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    How can Islam be called the religion of peace when it was spread by the sword?

    Answer:

    It is a common complaint among some non-Muslims that Islam would not have millions of adherents all over the world, if it had not been spread by the use of force. The following points will make it clear, that far from being spread by the sword, it was the inherent force of truth, reason and logic that was responsible for the rapid spread of Islam.

    1. Islam means peace

    Islam comes from the root word ‘salaam’, which means peace. It also means submitting one’s will to Allah (swt). Thus Islam is a religion of peace, which is acquired by submitting one’s will to the will of the Supreme Creator, Allah (swt).

    2. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace

    Each and every human being in this world is not in favour of maintaining peace and harmony. There are many, who would disrupt it for their own vested interests. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace. It is precisely for this reason that we have the police who use force against criminals and anti-social elements to maintain peace in the country. Islam promotes peace. At the same time, Islam exhorts its followers to fight where there is oppression. The fight against oppression may, at times, require the use of force. In Islam force can only be used to promote peace and justice.

    3. Opinion of historian De Lacy O’Leary

    The best reply to the misconception that Islam was spread by the sword is given by the noted historian De Lacy O’Leary in the book “Islam at the cross road” (Page 8):

    “History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.”

    4. Muslims ruled Spain for 800 years

    Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. The Muslims in Spain never used the sword to force the people to convert. Later the Christian Crusaders came to Spain and wiped out the Muslims. There was not a single Muslim in Spain who could openly give the adhaan, that is the call for prayers.

    5. 14 million Arabs are Coptic Christians

    Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians i.e. Christians since generations. If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian.

    6. More than 80% non-Muslims in India

    The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non- Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword.

    7. Indonesia and Malaysia

    Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. May one ask, “which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia?”

    8. East Coast of Africa

    Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. One may again ask, if Islam was spread by the sword, “which Muslim army went to the East Coast of Africa?”

    9. Thomas Carlyle

    The famous historian, Thomas Carlyle, in his book “Heroes and Hero worship”, refers to this misconception about the spread of Islam:

    “The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword! Every new opinion, at its starting is, precisely in a minority of one. In one man’s head alone, there it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword, and try to propagate with that, will do little for him. You must first get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can.”

    10. No compulsion in religion

    With which sword was Islam spread? Even if Muslims had it they could not use it to spread Islam because the Qur’an says in the following verse:

    “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error”

    [Al Qur’an 2:256]

    11. Sword of the Intellect

    It is the sword of intellect. The sword that conquers the hearts and minds of people. The Qur’an says in Surah An Nahl, Chapter 16 Verse 125:

    “Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious.”

    [Al Qur’an 16:125]

    12. Increase in the world religions from 1934 to 1984

    An article in Reader’s Digest ‘Almanac’, year book 1986, gave the statistics of the increase of percentage of the major religions of the world in half a century from 1934 to 1984. This article also appeared in ‘The Plain Truth’ magazine. At the top was Islam, which increased by 235%, and Christianity had increased only by 47%. May one ask, which war took place in this century which converted millions of people to Islam?

    13. Islam is the fastest growing religion in America and Europe

    Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe is Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers?

    14. Dr Joseph Adam Pearson

    Dr Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, “People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHAMMAD (pbuh) was born.”

27. Marco Says:
    January 29th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Sunil- I assume you were referring to the themed dinner held one night at the Beruwala Hotel of the “nirvana-style” buffet with Buddha Bar music. (Buddha Bar Music is banned in Sri Lanka)
    There is no Buddha Bar in Sri Lanka

28. sawmeer Says:
    January 29th, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    The Urban Myth: “There are no Buddhist Terrorists”…all religions have terrorists

    Ashoka (real or imagined figure) waged wars and tried to conquer the world to spread Buddhism. The Bharati state in fact uses he symbols of Ashoka.

    The Khmer Rouge wanted a Buddhist state, with Niradoum Sihanouk as the vicegerent of God and Buddha.

    So-ko-ga-ki represented a radical part of Buddhism. Emperor Hirohito of Japan represented the Sun God and head of all Buddhists and Taoist. Of course the Buddhist Japanese Army was not having bake sales in Korea (when they abducted 300,000 Korean women to serve the Buddhist Japanese Army) and they were not distributing Hail Mary candies during the rape of Nanking. And the Korean Buddhists were sending bouquets of flowers to the US Marines at the DMZ. The Tibetan Terrorists who harassed the Chinese Army were not doing it for the great glory of the Stars and Stripes.

    Periodically Buddist monks have encouraged violence or initiated it. The primary example in the 20th and 21st century is in Sri Lanka, where Sinhala Buddhist groups have committed and encouraged violence against local Christians and Tamils. The leader of Aum Shinrikyo, a Japanese cult that committed a lethal sarin gas attack in the mid-1990s, drew on Buddhist as well as Hindu ideas to justify his beliefs.

    Sri Lanka is embroiled in conflict at this present time.
    “The primary example in the 20th and 21st century is in Sri Lanka, where Sinhala Buddhist groups have committed and encouraged violence against local Christians and Tamils.”

    With regard to:
    Kamikaze. The divine wind is a Shinto belief.

    Soka gakkai. Nichiren buddhism. They are evangelical buddhists.

    Aum Shinrikyo. It is a composite belief system that incorporates Asahara’s idiosyncratic interpretations of Yoga with facets of Buddhism and Christianity, and even the writings of Nostradamus.

    Athuraliye Rathana is an example of a Buddhist extremist.

    There was the Aum sect, which poured poisonous gas into a subway station in Japan, during the mid 1990s.

    CambodiaMass gravesMillions were killed in CambodiaThe killing fields of Cambodia

    VietnamVietnames Buddhist atrocitiesVietnamese Buddhistsvietcong-3.jpg

    hindu-tamil-tigers-are-terrorrists.jpgTamil Tiger Suicide bombingSinhalese Buddhist and Hindu Tamil conflict in Sri Lanka

    hindu-tamil-tiger-in-training.jpg

    “Islam and the absence of Chinese terrorists” By Chan Akya. Asia Times refused to print this response to Akya even though regular diatribes on Islam are regularly printed in the on-line paper.

    The incomprehensible “gabble-gook” written by Chan Akya in his article “Islam and the absence of Chinese terrorists” was totally devoid of any semblance to reality. His selective use of historical facts showed dishonesty and blatant Islamphobic bigotry.

    FACT: Hinayana Buddhism lost its classical fight against Brahmanism in Hindu Kush, Taxila, Kushan, Kashmir, and other areas of the Subcontinent and was banished from India

    FACT: To survive in China Hiniyana transformed itself into Mahayana (Hiniyana light with a more acceptable light skinned oriental Buddha, instead of a dark-skinned Indian Siddharta/Buddha).

    Sitting on a sanctimonious horse acting “holier than though”, and passing judgment on another religion shows pure unadulterated racism. Living in a Buddhist glass house, Ankya should know better than to throw stones at Islam!.

    Neither Hiniyana, nor Mahayana Buddhist is immune to violence or terrorism. Ankya says that “the history of Buddhism has much to do with this divergence.”. He may be partially right, Muslim terrorists originally trained by the CIA (Bin Laden who turned on the their maker) kill one or two, or dozens or hundreds. For every Bin Laden there is a Kim Jung II.

    Buddhists also kill by the dozens, but there is a qualitative and quantitative difference in Buddhist atrocities. The Buddhist terrorists kill millions. Let me remind Akya of some historical anomalies in his ridiculous article.

    1) The Sinhalese-Tamil (Buddhist-Hindu) civil war in Sri Lanka is of course taken toll of thousands of lives, and as of last week was on the cover story of all major news organizations. The Sri Lankan government and the Tamils are both accused of terror tactics and committing atrocities.

    2) The Cambodian killing fields were red in blood, not because the Khemers were docile Buddhists.

    3) The violent perpetuated in Buddhist Vietnam between rivals (US as well as Vietnamese) was more violent than any we have seen in recent times.

    4) Where was Mahayana Buddhism during the Sun Yet Sun and Maoist civil war?

    5) Where was Buddhist “ahimsa” (non-violence) during the Cultural Revolution?

    6) Why was Buddhist-Taoist philosophy unable to “to fill the poor with greater optimism about their lot” during the Japanese invasion of Korea?

    7) Why was Buddhist philosophy in hiding during the rape of Nanking by Buddhist (Japanese) soldiers?

    8) Why was the “enlightenment” absent during the abduction of 300,000 Korean women by Buddhist (Japanese) soldiers in Korea?

    9) Why doesn’t Mahayana Buddhist-Taoist philosophy stop the genocide of Ughurs?

    10) The human rights records of Laos, and Burma are not written in gold in the history books of tolerance and enlightenment.

    11) ) The Thai massacres of Muslims in Thailand should not be a reason to criticize all Buddhists!

    All Buddhist countries have seen unprecedented violence in the past 70 years. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous! Ankya knows well, that neither Islam, nor Hinduism, nor Sikhism, nor Judaism, nor Buddhist nor Christianity has a monopoly on terror or violence or genocide.

    It is not the religion, but politics, injustice, colonialism, and occupation that create violence.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYdnkUbzgRU

    Non-violent Buddhist monks rioting in the streets and looting banks

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYdnkUbzgRU]

    THE PURPOSE OF THIS ARTICLE IS NOT TO DENIGRATE ANY RELIGION–THE PURPOSE OF THE ARTICLE IS TO REFUTE THE CHAN AKYA TYPE OF PROPOGANDA AGAINST ISLAM AND OTHER RELIGIONS

29. Lorenzo Says:
    January 29th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    “Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. The Muslims in Spain never used the sword to force the people to convert. Later the Christian Crusaders came to Spain and wiped out the Muslims. There was not a single Muslim in Spain who could openly give the adhaan, that is the call for prayers.”

    Thank you Sewmeer for some hope.

    Even from terrorists there is something we can learn!! Copy that Houston.

30. Ancient Sinhalaya Says:
    January 29th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    First the sword was used to get the countries. Later the ‘baby machines’ were used. This is evident in the case of Malaysia and Indonesia. Sword isn’t allowed of course in this day and age!

31. Lorenzo Says:
    January 29th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    Sewermeer should get his FACTS right.

    “Ashoka (real or imagined figure) waged wars and tried to conquer the world to spread Buddhism. The Bharati state in fact uses he symbols of Ashoka.”

    He tried to conquer parts of South Asia NOT to spread Buddhism. When he learned Buddhism, he STOPPED all wars and started to spread Buddhism peacefully!!

    Contrast that with the Arabic who invented Malice. AFTER he founded his religion (Malice) he STARTED wars!!
    Buddhism ENDS wars, Malice (another name for you know what) STARTS wars.

    When Buddhism was introduced to SL there were IMMEDIATE good for living beings. A deer got to live.
    When Malice was introduced to SL, I’m sure they slaughtered goats as “sacrifarce”.

    “The Khmer Rouge wanted a Buddhist state, with Niradoum Sihanouk as the vicegerent of God and Buddha.”

    Another complete lie. But Idie Amin wanted a Malice Africa and ate humans!

    “The Sinhalese-Tamil (Buddhist-Hindu) civil war in Sri Lanka is of course taken toll of thousands of lives, and as of last week was on the cover story of all major news organizations. The Sri Lankan government and the Tamils are both accused of terror tactics and committing atrocities.”

    What fancy!

    Thousands of lives.
    Compare that with Shia-Sunni wars which killed MILLIONS (millions more in 2013-15). BTW I’m not complaining, just counting.

    Malice Mali, Egypt, Sudan, Algeria, Yemen, etc. have joined the ELITE club of Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Lebanon, Intestine Palestine, Saudi, Libya, etc. in self-wiping out Malice. SL war looks like a child’s play!

32. Lorenzo Says:
    January 29th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Another gem from Sewermeer. He learned this lasy friday.

    “Dr Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, “People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHAMMAD (pbuh) was born.””

    That is why we should DEFUSE it.

    But I can assure you that nuclear weaponry will NOT fall in the hands of the Arabs, but on the HEADS of Arabs.

33. NAK Says:
    January 30th, 2013 at 5:20 am

    Sawmeer in his eagerness to cleanse his terrorists get his facts mexed up. Emperor Ashoka was a warrior conqueror before he became a Buddhist. After becoming a Buddhist he conquered countries with Buddhism with his son Arhat Mihindu in the front.
    Re. Cambodia,Khermer rouge had no people support even though they managed to wrench the country from the militsry puppet installed by the CIA. They simply used Prince Sihonouk’s popularity to get people to collaborate with them while secretly kept the prince imprisoned. Buddhism had nothing what so ever to do with it except the Khemer rouge distroyed Buddhism completly in Cambodia by distroying all most all the temples and killing the monks,but they could not distroy it from the hearts of the poeple and now it is claiming its rightful place in that country.

    Sawmeer, the bottom line for me is not how Buddhism declined or destroyed but what happened to those countries after Buddhism and compare the differnce with what you see today.

34. sawmeer Says:
    January 30th, 2013 at 6:17 am

    Dear Buddhist brothers, If Ashoka want to spread Buddhism peacefully Why Muslim can’t spread Islam peacefully, Islam never spread by forcing any one or killed any one. Muslim conquer some countries because the kings are use the people as slaved they don’t have any freedom do any things, when Muslim army went to Spain the Christians welcome Muslim army to free them, because that much they tortured by Christian kings. you claim Muslim conquer your Buddhist countries So How Asoka conquer other countries to spread Buddhism. Do you think you can conquer any country without any war, its culture of the kings even in Sri Lanka so many war happen and So many army came from India to conquer Sri Lanka, the same way Muslim also conquer Asian countries with peacefully, to spread Islam, You read the Indian history, When Muslim conquer India Buddhist got more security before Muslim, because the Buddhist tortured by Hindu Brahmans, Muslim never killed or destroy any other religious temple or Kovils, But still Hindus trying to destroy Muslim mosque in India, Still Buddhist killing Muslim in China, Tailand, Myanmar, etc, But the Buddhist living peacefully in Malaysia, Indonesia and Maldives, Even Sri Lanka some Racist Buddhist monk trying to destroy Muslim mosques in all part of Sri Lanka, Is it Buddhist tolerance toward minorities.When some ignorance Banladesh Muslim destroy Buddhist temple but the Bangladesh goverment take the action very quickly but when Buddhist terrorist killed thousand of Muslim in Myanmar where is the action of Buddhist leader in Myanmar, When on Muslim Rizana killed in Saudi whole world and Sri Lanka Buddhist are crying for Rizana even we too cry but when thousand of Myanmar Muslim killed, thousand of Afghanistan children Killed by USA, when thousand of Iraqi children wear killed by USA, where is you crocodile tears. This is the different between Muslim and non-Musims. Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia, Most of the Asian countries Islam spread by traders, Which Army came to Sri Lanka, because of the Muslim traders genuine business system and their trust. Now you can see even in western countries Islam spread fast which Muslim army went to USA and European countries. Its the sprite of Islam. But the west Christian crusader are conquer our Muslim countries for Oil and Killing million of Muslim in so many part of the world in the name of terrorism. Muslim never killed million of people, its all done by Christian crusader all over the world.

    ts all lies of anti-Muslim writers,

35. Sunil Vijayapala Says:
    January 30th, 2013 at 6:33 am

    Allah hulalla mahalla halalla greetings sawmeer buddhism is for the wise not for pathetic fools buddha tamed both allah and satan on one occation read my article ‘some suttras of interest’ can you explain some quaran phrases which leela quoted clearly insiting violence which some of our tip cut nanas have craftily ignored upto now

36. Lorenzo Says:
    January 30th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    “when thousand of Myanmar Muslim killed, thousand of Afghanistan children Killed by USA, when thousand of Iraqi children wear killed by USA, where is you crocodile tears.”

    Rubbish. They cried when Muslims killed thousands of innocents on 9/11. They ASKED FOR IT in Afghanistan, Iraq, Myanmar, etc.

    It is NOT just Buddhists who have REALISED the problem is Muslims.
    Jews have realized it LONG TIME AGO.
    Hindus have realized it.
    Christians have realized it.

    Buddhists should NOT be any different. It’s the SAME threat to every civilized human.

    This pedophile, polygamist, violent, expansionist, epidemic cannot be allowed to ruin the world.

    IF Sewermeer is in Colombo-10 as he says with these ideas and anti-Buddhist views, we have a REAL danger!

37. Ancient Sinhalaya Says:
    January 30th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    ‘Loved’by
    Buddhists
    Hindus
    Christians
    Jews etc, etc. world over.
    Also loved by animals world over for giving them ‘painless end’ to their lives.
    Originator of all this had a very very good resume indeed.
    Never been to a school. Couldn’t read. Couldn’t write. Only thing good at was
    violence and you know what I mean. But we all have to give credit to him for successfully getting a lot of
    people believing in a lot of absurdities. Clever dick!

38. Nanda Says:
    January 30th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    Painless end to Rizana as well !
    Yes. This crazy idiot was as clever as Prabhakaran.
    Parabhakara still has followers such as Hillary, Obama, Singh.
    War mongers like this can have followers for example Hitler.

39. Voice123 Says:
    January 31st, 2013 at 9:38 am

    I find this article a little disturbing and surprised its purporting to come out of Sri Lanka. I must say I have never met a person named Khan in Colombo before. I have met many in England, but never in Colombo, let alone Colombo 10. Maybe I dont get out much!

40. Ancient Sinhalaya Says:
    January 31st, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    It is unbelievable these so called peace loving people from the religion of peace want to build a mosque next to Sri Maha Bodhiya while we can’t take Buddha Statue past the airport in their countries. They still justify their demand. Sri Lanka slowly but surely being strangled buy this menace. They are playing the nice guys card until the numbers are right and all the Sinhalese believe this. No wonder we are called Sinhalaya modaya.

41. Ancient Sinhalaya Says:
    January 31st, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    It is unbelievable these so called peace loving people from the religion of peace want to build a mosque next to Sri Maha Bodhiya while we can’t take Buddha Statue past the airport in their countries. They still justify their demand. Sri Lanka slowly but surely being strangled buy this menace. They are playing the nice guys card until the numbers are right and all the Sinhalese believe this. No wonder we are called Sinhalaya modaya.

42. sawmeer Says:
    January 31st, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    Dear Sinhalaya, If Saudi not allow you to take Buddha statues its law of Saudi, Can you blame Sri Lanka muslim for what happening in Saudi? You have to ask your Sri Lankan goverment because SL goverment and saudi goverment have an agreement, its mention very clearly any workers entering into Saudi they cannot carry any Idol or statues because according to Islam, keeping idol or statues is big sin. Because Saudi is Holy place of Muslims. Even Saudi goverment allowed to celebrate Visak in Sri Lanka embasy, even its happening all the Gulf countries.

    Because if you tell the real follow of the Buddha is Buddhist i will say the Muslims are more Buddhist than Buddhist him self, Because we Muslim follow is most of the teaching but the Buddhist not.

    1. Abstain from taking another creature’s life, weapons, violence.
    2. Abstain from taking things which were not given.
    3. Live soberly, piously, and honestly.
    4. Abstain from illegal and unjust sexual relationships.
    5. Abstain from lying.
    6. Speak only the truth, believable and reliable, and never contradict his own words.
    7. Abstain from slander.
    8. Promote, speak, and love union (harmony) and not division (conflict).
    9. Abstain from rough, insulting words.
    10. Speaking polite, likeable, exact, well chosen words that will make people’s hearts joyful, not wasting time in idle gossip.
    11. Discuss the Dhamma and the Vinaya at the right time.
    12. Discuss in clear, detailed, and understandable words.
    Majjhima Sila
    13. Abstain from hurting seeds, plants, roots, branches, cheating, trading, slavery, forgery, bribery, and criminal conduct.
    14. Abstain from hoarding food, drink, clothes (robes), bedding, perfume, spices, and other tools.
    15. Not Taking food after the noon.
    16. Abstain from watching shows (dances, exhibitions, matches, music performances, parades, etc.).
    17. Abstain from playing games (card games, board games, dice games, games of chance, racing games, acrobatics, word games, etc.).
    18. Abstain from using luxurious furniture and bedding.
    19. Abstain from using cosmetics, make-up, and fancy or luxurious clothes (robes).
    20. Abstain from discussing people, politicians, criminals, terrors, food and beverages, clothing, places, families, cities, wars and battles, heroes, ghosts, street rumors, speculation on how the world is created, or about existence and non-existence.
    21. Abstain from accusing, denying, goading or challenging (e.g., ‘I practised the Dhamma devoutly, but you don’t!’ or ‘What you say is old rubbish!’ or ‘You are wrong!’ or ‘Free yourself if you can!’).
    22. Abstain from being the courier or messenger of politicians or higher administrations.
    23. Abstain from deceiving lay people by uttering spells to exorcise demons or make someone’s fortune, acting like a holy person by reciting mantras.
    Maha Sila
    24. Abstain from earning money from fortune-telling, divination, clairvoyance, exorcism, conjuring, magic tricks, spells, making false medicine and herbs, healing people through magic, leading/conducting ceremonies in order to gain something (wealth, fertility, etc.).

    “The fragrance of holiness travels even against the wind. The influence of the holy ones extends everywhere. The fragrance of virtue travels even against the wind, as far as the ends of the world.”
    -Lord Buddha(Dhammapada (4:11)>>

    On the contrary, Buddha has opposed making of idols, when Ananda, a close relative, the most devoted attendant and a leading monk sought permission to make an idol of Buddha. The practice of idol worship in present day Buddhism is an innovation, defying the teachings of Buddha.

    Idol worship, the nearest analogy I can provide you is like calling someone else as one’s father, while his real father is another person. Rejection of one’s father and attributing this very honorable position to another person is a very disgraceful, abominable and disgusting thing any human being will think of doing. The only one true God (Allaah) is the Creator, Sustainer, Cherisher and Provider. It is He only deserves our worship. If we make idols of human beings, animals and other created objects, for the purpose of worship, my simple question is, do we earn the Blessings or the Wrath of Allaah? This is the unpardonable sin any human being can commit. The seriousness of this sin will not equal the analogy provided above.

43. Lorenzo Says:
    January 31st, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Because some Arabic followers follow

    1. Taking other creature’s life, weapons, violence.

    e.g. halal

    2. Taking things which were not given.

    e.g. Dawatagaha

    3. Never live soberly, piously, and honestly.

    e.g. Hack-him

    4. Illegal and unjust sexual relationships.

    e.g. polygamy

    5. Lying.

    e.g. Hack-him

    6. Never speak the truth, always contradict own words.

    e.g. Hack-him

    7. Slander.

    e.g. Hack-him

    8. Promote, speak, and hate union (harmony), love division (conflict).

    e.g. Hack-him who said Buddhist monks are terrorists

    9. Rough, insulting words.

    e.g. Hack-him

    10. Never speak polite, likeable, exact, well chosen words.

    e.g. Osama

    11. Insult the Dhamma and the Vinaya at the right time.

    e.g. Islamic Taliban

    12. Discuss in violent, brutal words.

    e.g. Islamic Taliban

    13. Hurting seeds, plants, roots, branches, cheating, trading, slavery, forgery, bribery, and criminal conduct.

    e.g. Islamic Taliban

    14. Hoarding food, drink, clothes (robes), bedding, perfume, spices, and other tools.

    e.g. Ramazan

    15. Taking massive amounts of food after the noon.

    e.g. Ramazan

    16. Watch shows (belly dances) but never watch decent exhibitions, matches, music performances, parades, etc.).

    e.g. Arabia

    17. Abstain from playing civilised games (card games, board games, dice games, games of chance, racing games, acrobatics, word games, etc.).

    e.g. Taliban games including stoning to death, chopping fingers, banning dinosor exhibitions

    18. Abstain from using civilised peoples furniture and bedding.

    e.g. Osama sleeping in caves

    19. Abstain from using civilised peoples cosmetics, make-up, and fancy or luxurious clothes (robes).

    e.g. Use goat blood instead

    20. Abstain from discussing people, politicians, criminals, terrors, food and beverages, clothing, places, families, cities, wars and battles, heroes, ghosts, street rumors, speculation on how the world is created, or about existence and non-existence because we only discuss Arabic rubbish.

    e.g. the book that preaches violence

    21. Accusing, denying, goading or challenging (e.g., ‘I practised the Dhamma devoutly, but you don’t!’ or ‘What you say is old rubbish!’ or ‘You are wrong!’ or ‘Free yourself if you can!’).

    e.g. the book that preaches ONLY one god

    22. Being the courier or messenger of politicians or higher administrations.

    e.g. Hack-him

    23. Deceiving lay people by uttering spells to exorcise demons or make someone’s fortune, acting like a holy person by reciting mantras.

    e.g. the book that preaches violence

    24. Earning money from drug dealings, fortune-telling, divination, clairvoyance, exorcism, conjuring, magic tricks, spells, making false medicine and herbs, healing people through magic, leading/conducting ceremonies in order to gain something (wealth, fertility, etc.).

    e.g. SLMC

    Very interesting.

    IF Muslims are better Buddhists than those who label themselves Buddhists, that is FANTASTIC. But the contrary is true.

44. Ancient Sinhalaya Says:
    February 1st, 2013 at 1:38 am

    It’s the breeding stupid!
    The issue is Budddhists not being Buddhists. We don’t care if non-Buddhists attain Nibbana. The issue is we are losing our ‘home’ thanks to this multiplying. You don’t need history books, quote from Mr This and Mr That to cleanse what you’ve done and what you’re doing. Visit Dept of Census website. You can’t deny the figures there. We are going down the road old Indonesia, Afganisthan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Maldives, Malaysia have gone. Be citizens of of Sri Lanka for once. Not a xxxxxx which is slowly strangling the country. Send wives to do a job if they are bored at home like the Sinhalese and Tamil wives so they won’t have time to give birth year after year. For the men folk, also do a job rather than devouring town after town of Sri Lanka.

45. sawmeer Says:
    February 1st, 2013 at 4:02 am

    I can give one simple answer according my view of some Buddhist who are commenting her their not ready to follow what Buddha teach. They Not ready stop alcohol and prostitution in this country, They not read to stop bar and club, they not read to stop race and gambling all the owners are Buddhist. Even Buddha Bar and hotel own by Buddhist and majority of the employee are Buddhist.

    But some Racist Buddhist groups want to destroy Muslim mosques, Hindus Kovil and Christian church. They are following the chauvinism, Racism and hate speech. As majority of this country are Buddhist more than 70% they are so afraid of 8% Muslims what made people, and trying to fool innocent Sinhales Buddhist. Spread as much as lies and false information about Muslim and Islam like Wahabi, Salafi and Jihad. But they don’t know what Wahabi salafi and Jihad. Simply connection other Muslim countries war and problem with Sri Lanka Muslim. Why these much weak your people.

    We Muslim don’t want to do any war or Jihad, We have history of living peace fully with Sinhala community, We Muslim more effect by your War with LTTE the war happen because of your racism against tamil community but we Muslim simply punished because of the war and we lost more human life, still Muslim cannot go to their own places in Jaffna and Mannar still living in refugee cams in Puttalam and Anuradhapura.

    But we know Majority of the Buddhist are good people they more near to Muslim than tamil. Please stop your racism and try to live peacefully without creating another war in this country.

46. Nanda Says:
    February 1st, 2013 at 4:54 am

    “The practice of idol worship in present day Buddhism is an innovation, defying the teachings of Buddha.”

    Even if you keep a naked statue of woman infront and worship, it is better than bum-up head-down worship of a hypothetical Allah.
    Buddhist do not worship idols you fool, Buddhist only respect Buddha, an actual person who lived. Brainless Muslims should keep a naked statue of the paedophile mohamud and worship instead of kissing the ground and offering the bum to a mythical God. Simple as that.

    Atleast abstain from having fun with seven women, no need to give up luxurious furniture.

47. Christie Says:
    February 1st, 2013 at 5:16 am

    Buddhist doctorinr and phylosopy and practice comes from Buddaha who was born in the land of Sinhala people.

    Great Dharmasoka of India took it to India and it was diluted with Hindu concepts and stories.

48. Voice123 Says:
    February 1st, 2013 at 8:36 am

    So it seems that Muslims are the model for all virtue and good behaviour the world over!

    And pigs are flying!

49. Nanda Says:
    February 1st, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    The new pig is the same Thambiya called Fahmy Army in a different name.

50. Nanda Says:
    February 1st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Pigs are now teaching Buddhism !

51. Ancient Sinhalaya Says:
    February 2nd, 2013 at 3:24 am

    We have been living in this country since the beginning of time. We misbehaved, behaved is non of your business. We survived. Our heritage survived from the bulldozer. But not anymore at the rate you are multiplying.
    Rather than trying to make us like you are, why don’t you all go back to where you came from. You will be much much happier there because all what you are asking is there, so you don’t have to do anything.
    Nobody will shed a tear! Nobody will miss you!

52. sawmeer Says:
    February 4th, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    To begin with, we must quote verses within their context. If we quote one verse without quoting what comes before it or sometimes after it or both, then the meaning is lost and anyone may interpret that verse according to their desire.

    So taking the first incomplete verse that you quoted and listing verses 190 to 192, exactly one verse before and one verse after clarifies the meaning greatly:

    {Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you but do not transgress, for Allah does not like transgressors} (2:190)

    {Kill them whenever you confront them and drive them out from where they drove you out. (For though killing is sinful) wrongful persecution is even worth than killing. Don’t fight against them near the holy mosque unless they fight against you; but if they fight against you kill them, that’s the reward of such unbelievers.} (2:191)

    {Then if they stop, know well that Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Compassionate.) (2:192)

    So looking at the above verses, they are obviously talking about the disbelievers of Quraish at the time of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him); therefore, the mention of the holy mosque in Makkah.

    However, if we generalize, we still conclude that Allah orders the Muslims to fight as self-defense and to stop fighting when the enemy stops as you may read in verses 190 and 192 above.

    Again the second verse you have quoted is incomplete. With half the information missing, you are not going to understand the proper meaning; again here we need to quote the verse before and the verse after:

    {What has happened to you that you two minds about the hypocrites even though Allah has reverted them owing to the sins that they earned? Do you want to lead those to the Right Way whom Allah let go astray? And he whom Allah lets go astray, for him you can never find a way.} (4:88)

    {They wish that you should disbelieve just as they disbelieved so that you may all be alike. Don’t, therefore, take allies from them until they emigrate in the Way of Allah; but if they turn their backs (on emigration), seize them and slay them wherever you come upon them. take none of them for your ally or helper, unless it be such of them who seek refuge with the people who are joined with you by a covenant, or those who come to you because their hearts shrink from fighting either against you or against their own people. Had Allah so willed, He would certainly have given them power over you and they would have fought against you. If they leave you alone and don’t fight against you and offer you peace, then Allah does not permit you to harm them.} (4:89-90)

    These verses are clearly talking about the hypocrites who were plotting against Muslims at the time of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon them) and the sign that they are hypocrites is that they did not migrate with the rest of the Muslims, so the Prophet was asked to kill them unless they stop harming the Muslims; if they do so then leave them alone.

    As for the third verse, the translation is incorrect; here’s the correct translation:

    {It is not befitting for a Prophet to take captives until he has sufficiently suppressed the enemies in the land. You merely seek the gains of the world whereas Allah desires (for you the good) of the Hereafter. Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.} (8:67)

    This verse was revealed with regard to the battle of Badr which was the first war that the Muslims encountered. Since Muslims were not financially established, they wanted to capture as many prisoners of war as possible in order to ask for ransom. This displeased Allah, therefore, the blame: “You merely seek the gains of the world…”. The verses below give more details about captives of war in Islam.

    As for the fourth verse, the same applies as in the first and second verses you mention, that verses before and after must be quoted as well:

    {This is public proclamation by Allah and His Messenger to all people on the day of the Great Pilgrimage: “Allah is free from all obligation to those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity; and so is His Messenger. If you repent, it shall be for your own good; but if you turn away, then know well that you will not be able to frustrate Allah. So give glad tidings of a painful chastisement to those who disbelieve. In exception to those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity are those with whom you have made treaties and have not violated their treaties nor have backed up anyone against you. Fulfill your treaties with them till the end of their term. Surely Allah loves the pious.”} (9:3-4)

    {But when the sacred months expire, slay those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity wherever you find them; seize them, and besiege them, and lie in wait for them. But if they repent and establish the Prayer and pay Zakah, leave them alone. Surely Allah is All-Forgiving, Ever-Merciful.} (9:5)

    {And if any of those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity seeks asylum, grant him asylum that he may hear the Word of Allah, and then escort him to safety for they are a people who don’t know.} (9:6)

    From the above verses, it is clearly talking about those who have declared war against the Muslims since repentance is mentioned and the last verse is allowing the Muslims to grant asylum to those who are not wanting to fight.

    As for the last one, it is incorrectly translated as well; here’s the correct translation:

    {When you meet the unbelievers (in battle), smite their necks until you have crushed them, then bind your captives firmly; therefore (you are entitled to) set them free, either by an act of grace, or against ransom, until the war ends…} (47:4)

    This is talking about facing the enemy in battle since it talks about captives. It does not say to torture captives as in the case of modern warefare; Islam set the rules more than forteen hundred years ago that it was, and still is free from such barbaric acts. Captives are either freed as an act of grace or against ransom such as getting the Muslim captives from the enemy’s side.

    Some might question, why would a religious book talk about war. The simple answer is that Islam is a complete way of life with political, economical, and social systems which are well defined.

    There is no religion or nation who is more tolerant that Islam. Yes, some Muslims could be intolerant but Islam should not be blamed for their evil acts. It is only their misunderstandings about their own religion that led them that far.

    Islam promotes moderation in all aspects of life, when someone takes it lightly or makes it stricter than it should be, then there will be negative consequences.

    I hope this helps answer your question.

    http://www.onislam.net/english/ask-about-islam/islam-and-the-world/worldview/461129-did-mohammad-lead-bloody-wars.html

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